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Old 09-29-2011, 06:01 PM
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Just keeps looking better every day.

I can envision myself on the stern giving the one fingered salute to the powers that be.

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It would be tough trolling for walleye off that thing. Then again, after a few rum punches, you wouldn't care.
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:47 PM
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In a way they are doing a favor by creating jobs. If their creativity and capital was not needed, then surely all those "producers" would produce without them. It's a matter of opportunity cost for the entrepreneur; that is, he must see a viable outcome for his accepted risk. Also, increasing productivity is the only way that labor can legitimately increase their real wages.
True, except what is stated in the sentence that I bolded----Isn't happening.

Especially when you consider that many now gauge "productivity" by per unit cost---this can be corrupted, simply by reducing cost of an hours labor, rather than increasing the units produced within that hour at the higher rate. Example; 100 units per hour at $20/hour cost vs. 100 units per hour at $10/hour, rather than 200 units per hour produced at $20 per hour. This is not a gain in productivity, it is a reduction of cost (In this example, hourly wages.).

This is why I shake my head when politicians brag that their "right to work" states workers are more productive----No they're not. Trust me, I live and work in such a state, these people are just as lazy and absentee as anyone I worked with in Ohio or California, (If not worse in some cases.). They're just compensated less.

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Old 09-30-2011, 06:53 AM
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It would be tough trolling for walleye off that thing. Then again, after a few rum punches, you wouldn't care.
Would be kinda tough following a contour in that rig.

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Old 09-30-2011, 08:28 AM
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Your next question should be :"Where do I apply?"

When did we start hating on people for having a strong wage, and what purpose does that serve? When I was a kid we used to consider someone with a "good" job, meaning one with strong wages, insurance and some sort of retiement plan tio be "fortunate", "lucky" or "blessed". Now, all you hear is a bunch of shit about how undeserving everyone is. The assholes have even come out against the minimum wage.....$7.25 is exhorbitant to them. I can't help but wonder what's in the pot at the end of THAT rainbow. My guess is it isn't gold.
Dave this is the ploy of the monied class and workers are falling for it hook, line and sinker. Instead of getting a union of their own and demanding a decent wage they gang up on the guuys with a better wage - and their masters are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM
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Would be kinda tough following a contour in that rig.

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Rum punch, Chas, rum punch. After a few, following the contour would be like walking the center line for Johnny Law, but a lot more fun.
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:32 AM
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In a way they are doing a favor by creating jobs. If their creativity and capital was not needed, then surely all those "producers" would produce without them. It's a matter of opportunity cost for the entrepreneur; that is, he must see a viable outcome for his accepted risk. Also, increasing productivity is the only way that labor can legitimately increase their real wages.
Is it starting to dawn on you that they "need" each other? The capitalist can't increase his capital without producers, the producers need the capitalist to have the chance to create summat. But it was the capitalists who started the war first - the Powell Memo - Google it.
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D, one problem, there is not increased wealth - GNP is pretty darn stagnant.

But as gas prices go down Obama's reelection prospects brighten for sure.

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D, one problem, there is not increased wealth - GNP is pretty darn stagnant.

But as gas prices go down Obama's reelection prospects brighten for sure.

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GNP may be stagnant but profits are at an all time high, though I note that the boys in the NY Casino are upset. It seems they only forecast a 16% increase in profits for the 4th quarter rather than the 22% increase in the 3rd.
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Old 09-30-2011, 01:58 PM
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Rum punch, Chas, rum punch. After a few, following the contour would be like walking the center line for Johnny Law, but a lot more fun.
It just ain't a walleye rig.

It's a going where no walleye has ever been before rig.

BTW, once you're in international waters, is there a limit on dolphin?

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Old 09-30-2011, 02:08 PM
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It just ain't a walleye rig.

It's a going where no walleye has ever been before rig.

BTW, once you're in international waters, is there a limit on dolphin?

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I'm thinking I may need to upgrade my retirement watercraft.

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