I hope this has not already been posted. I find it very disturbing

[Charles]

Originally Posted by wgrr

Of course we should be outraged. Home invasions happen way too often. If one of them had shot and killed the home invading prick when he broke in, to protecting themselves, I would have been fine with it. It would have been legal in Oklahoma. Recently, it happened here, The renter shot and killed one invader. The other one will never walk again. Once again I have no problem with this killing to protect one's home.

To equate the Oklahoma tragedy with the stalking and murdering of an unarmed, innocent young man, walking home from the store, In his own neighborhood, is ridiculous.

The real problem is the corrupt police department that allowed Zimmerman to hide behind a "make my day" law. I heard the chief of police was going to sign off on this "matter" today and put it to bed. Really you have a dead man, killed by Zimmerman over a month ago, and you intend to do no investigation at all. How pathetic.

One other thing, it is not up to the police to interpret the law. They should have arrested Zimmerman, he should have been bought before a grand jury after an extensive police investigation. If the grand jury felt that no charges were warranted, then Zimmerman should go free. If he is charged and found not guilty in a court of law, then he should go free. That is how the system works. It is not up to the police to make any determination of innocence or guilt no matter what the law says.

I think the chief of police just shat his pants. The stench on this case is overwhelming.

I thought Zimmerman was arrested, then released. I'm not familiar with the particulars of this case, and this has become a media driven frenzy.

But I do know one thing, due to my close association with the local police and the former prosecuting attorney.

The wheels of justice move mighty slow at times. Just waiting on autopsy results, reports from the crime lab, etc can take a long time.

And you can't proceed with a case until you have all of the evidence. Meantime, everybody is running around bitching that the cops ain't doing their job...which may or may not be the case.

A grand jury has been convened, so it looks like people are doing their job, and justice...or in the absence of that, legality...will be served.

Chas

[wgrr]

Originally Posted by Charles

I thought Zimmerman was arrested, then released. I'm not familiar with the particulars of this case, and this has become a media driven frenzy.

But I do know one thing, due to my close association with the local police and the former prosecuting attorney.

The wheels of justice move mighty slow at times. Just waiting on autopsy results, reports from the crime lab, etc can take a long time.

And you can't proceed with a case until you have all of the evidence. Meantime, everybody is running around bitching that the cops ain't doing their job...which may or may not be the case.

A grand jury has been convened, so it looks like people are doing their job, and justice...or in the absence of that, legality...will be served.

Chas

After the Feds stepped in.

The details are way to complex to sum up in short posts. One thing is a fact. Trayvon was tested for drugs, Zimmerman wasn't. The investigation is already compromised.

The Sanford police department Has a very checkered recent past. I look forward to learning more.

Read the link I just posted. It is interesting to see what defensive gun rights advocates are saying.

Oh, I know lots of prosecutors, public defenders, judges, and cops. They are personal friends, or my wife has represented them, keeping their ass' out of the ringer or in the money. I know how the process works. This one does not pass the smell test.

Man, I have some good stories to tell about lawyers, judges, and cops. I think that would be a great new thread. Some of it is very interesting. One involves my father in law, a prominent lawyer, law school professor, and an Assistant US Attorney that represented Eisenhower in the Little Rock Central High School segregation debacle in the 50's.

That was his early career. The accusation, conviction, and then the eventual acquittal for importing four tons of Columbian pot into the US is a really good story. Case law is still used today in drug trials.

Guess I just don't trust the legal system that much.

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by wgrr

After the Feds stepped in.

The details are way to complex to sum up in short posts. One thing is a fact. Trayvon was tested for drugs, Zimmerman wasn't. The investigation is already compromised.

The Sanford police department Has a very checkered recent past. I look forward to learning more.

Read the link I just posted. It is interesting to see what defensive gun rights advocates are saying.

Oh, I know lots of prosecutors, public defenders, judges, and cops. They are personal friends, or my wife has represented them, keeping their ass' out of the ringer or in the money. I know how the process works. This one does not pass the smell test.

Man, I have some good stories to tell about lawyers, judges, and cops. I think that would be a great new thread. Some of it is very interesting. One involves my father in law, a prominent lawyer, law school professor, and an Assistant US Attorney that represented Eisenhower in the Little Rock Central High School segregation debacle in the 50's.

That was his early career. The accusation, conviction, and then the eventual acquittal for importing four tons of Columbian pot into the US is a really good story. Case law is still used today in drug trials.

Guess I just don't trust the legal system that much.

Tell the story.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by wgrr

After the Feds stepped in.

The details are way to complex to sum up in short posts. One thing is a fact. Trayvon was tested for drugs, Zimmerman wasn't. The investigation is already compromised.

The Sanford police department Has a very checkered recent past. I look forward to learning more.

Read the link I just posted. It is interesting to see what defensive gun rights advocates are saying.

Oh, I know lots of prosecutors, public defenders, judges, and cops. They are personal friends, or my wife has represented them, keeping their ass' out of the ringer or in the money. I know how the process works. This one does not pass the smell test.

Man, I have some good stories to tell about lawyers, judges, and cops. I think that would be a great new thread. Some of it is very interesting. One involves my father in law, a prominent lawyer, law school professor, and an Assistant US Attorney that represented Eisenhower in the Little Rock Central High School segregation debacle in the 50's.

That was his early career. The accusation, conviction, and then the eventual acquittal for importing four tons of Columbian pot into the US is a really good story. Case law is still used today in drug trials.

Guess I just don't trust the legal system that much.

I don't either, when you get right down to it.

It's like a gambling trip to Vegas. The game's rigged, and if you ain't one of the players, then you're one of the rubes.

I've seen dirty politics up close too. Not QUITE on the same level as you, but I was amazed.

I'd never make it in politics. I'd get pissed off and kill some sumbitch...right in front of God and everybody.

Let me take that back. I'd probably HIRE somebody to kill some sumbitch while nobody was looking.

I'm 58 yrs old, and slowly getting wiser. And to tell the truth, the only reason I'd feel bad is if I were to get caught...other than worrying about getting caught.

Perhaps Castle Doctrine should be a defense allowed in politics? If they're out to destroy you and take everything you have???

Chas

[painter]

Originally Posted by Charles

BTW, this is why they write laws like that.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lind-date.html

Should we be outraged about this as well?

Chas

God Bless this man....he CARES and needs to be heard it reflects ANY RACE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoxQbnVx4TU

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by painter

God Bless this man....he CARES and needs to be heard it reflects ANY RACE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoxQbnVx4TU

Good for the mayor for speaking about about the issues affecting his city, but the Trayvon Bryant case has nothing to do with Philadelphia gang activity. He was visiting his father, giving the impression that his father was involved. The mayor was telling parents that they have to be involved and guide their kids away from gang activity. Trayvon was returning to his father's house with Skittles and iced tea. What was going on it that video had no relevance to this issue.

Regards,

D-Ray

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Good for the mayor for speaking about about the issues affecting his city, but the Trayvon Bryant case has nothing to do with Philadelphia gang activity. He was visiting his father, giving the impression that his father was involved. The mayor was telling parents that they have to be involved and guide their kids away from gang activity. Trayvon was returning to his father's house with Skittles and iced tea. What was going on it that video had no relevance to this issue.

Regards,

D-Ray

Trayvon Bryant???

Next the left will be claiming that Zimmerman was a vigilante who murdered little Tyerone Shoelaces on his way to bassball practice!!!

Chas

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Charles

Trayvon Bryant???

Next the left will be claiming that Zimmerman was a vigilante who murdered little Tyerone Shoelaces on his way to bassball practice!!!

Chas

That's about what happened.

It seems fat boy has a habit of not listening to the police and being physical to get his way. Even punching a cop.

I have assumed up to now that Trayvon did indeed throw the first punch in a defensive move since he was being stalked. But now it seems more likely that the fat bastard decided that he wanted the kid to stop and was going to physically stop him.


Either way this clown should be in jail. He is a murderer.

OK maybe I am slow but other than being "connected" why is this guy not in jail?

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by painter

God Bless this man....he CARES and needs to be heard it reflects ANY RACE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoxQbnVx4TU

Again, nothing to do with this case. Except that maybe Zimmermans folks should have done a better job raising him, so that he doesn't go hunting for kids armed with Skittles.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by painter

God Bless this man....he CARES and needs to be heard it reflects ANY RACE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoxQbnVx4TU

Yes, do you have a link with a country pastor preaching this to a redneck crowd?