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Old 06-16-2020, 07:23 AM
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"Antifa" (antifascists) is a relatively loose term for associated like minded collection of individuals opposed to right/far right interests, usually authoritarians tied to moneyed interests. Oriented more to social causes and reform than business and profits as the first priority. Some extremist agitators in the movement may be interested in fomenting an open rebellion, but that isn't the goal of the vast majority, social reform benefiting most "ordinary" folk is.
Likewise, there are folks and groups on the opposite pole advocating authoritarianism under their principles under political, economic, and/or religious priorities of racism and/or Christian dominionism. Advocates of inciting revolt include so-called "boogaloo boys".
It can be assumed that extremists from any movement may pose as their polar opposite to discredit their image/cause and foment retaliation. Any variation of that strategy is possible and likely to be expected.
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Old 06-16-2020, 07:35 AM
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"Antifa" (antifascists) is a relatively loose term for associated like minded collection of individuals opposed to right/far right interests, usually authoritarians tied to moneyed interests. Oriented more to social causes and reform than business and profits as the first priority. Some extremist agitators in the movement may be interested in fomenting an open rebellion, but that isn't the goal of the vast majority, social reform benefiting most "ordinary" folk is.
Likewise, there are folks and groups on the opposite pole advocating authoritarianism under their principles under political, economic, and/or religious priorities of racism and/or Christian dominionism. Advocates of inciting revolt include so-called "boogaloo boys".
It can be assumed that extremists from any movement may pose as their polar opposite to discredit their image/cause and foment retaliation. Any variation of that strategy is possible and likely to be expected.
I consider people forcing me to wear a mask in public to be authoritarian in perspective if not literally authoritarian, the former being the Karens and the latter being the elected officials. I consider people telling me who I can and can't hire based on sex, race, age, etc. to be authoritarian.

I do not consider people fighting for enforcement of our laws to be authoritarian. Law is a good thing. But authoritarian laws are bad things. What does Antifa stand for and how are they fighting for that? I submit that Antifa are themselves Fascist in their goals and are the modern equivalent of the Nazi brownshirts.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:28 AM
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I consider people forcing me to wear a mask in public to be authoritarian in perspective if not literally authoritarian, the former being the Karens and the latter being the elected officials. I consider people telling me who I can and can't hire based on sex, race, age, etc. to be authoritarian.

I do not consider people fighting for enforcement of our laws to be authoritarian. Law is a good thing. But authoritarian laws are bad things. What does Antifa stand for and how are they fighting for that? I submit that Antifa are themselves Fascist in their goals and are the modern equivalent of the Nazi brownshirts.
I'm and American living in Dallas and know of no US or Texas law forcing me to wear a mask. Sounds like Kentucky isn't really your kind of place after all.

Any law that has the intent of keeping one from doing what one wants to do is probably seen as authoritarian by the perp.
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