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02-28-2013, 05:14 PM
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Meh.
The 2A as valid government opposition has been moot since 1865, when everyone had the same guns.
The very idea that John Q. could oppose our government's military for greater than 15 seconds (ten of which would be the big guns laughing uncontrollably) is farcical.
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02-28-2013, 06:12 PM
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A lot of people like him because he projected effectively the argument that Germany was stabbed in the back (WW1) by the twin evil of Jews and the Bolsheviks.
. The Jews even if they were armed would not be effective since they were spread throughout Germany. A people armed in a particular area if their numbers are sufficient can put up some resistance.
Anti semitism had a very large receptive audience in Germany especially after WW1.
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02-28-2013, 09:24 PM
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Quote:
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A lot of people like him because he projected effectively the argument that Germany was stabbed in the back (WW1) by the twin evil of Jews and the Bolsheviks.
. The Jews even if they were armed would not be effective since they were spread throughout Germany. A people armed in a particular area if their numbers are sufficient can put up some resistance.
Anti semitism had a very large receptive audience in Germany especially after WW1.
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Ask any Air Force pilot in an A10 Warthog what they think of that idea. A target rich enviroment is probably what they would say. They don't mind being shot at with small arms, it just shows them where to drop the napalm or cluster bombs on their next pass. Caveat, small arms being anything under 20mm.
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02-28-2013, 09:29 PM
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Ask any Air Force pilot in an A10 Warthog what they think of that idea. A target rich enviroment is probably what they would say. They don't mind being shot at with small arms, it just shows them where to drop the napalm or cluster bombs on their next pass. Caveat, small arms being anything under 20mm.
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Hmmm Bob
what country defeated a massive Air Force and Army while black pajamas and carrying AK-47s
air power is not everything. It usually just makes the enemy more determined to win in the long run
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02-28-2013, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by icenine
1). "Hmmm Bob
what country defeated a massive Air Force and Army while black pajamas and carrying AK-47s "
2). "air power is not everything. It usually just makes the enemy more determined to win in the long run"
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1). In the jungle against an Army trained and equipped to fight in a conditions more like Europe or North America. McArthur and Ike both warned against getting too heavily involved in S.E. Asia. Turns out they were right, just as Ike was right about the MIC.
2). Speaking of Nazis..........I'd say air superiority pretty much did them in. The Japanese too.
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02-28-2013, 09:48 PM
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Hmmm Bob
what country defeated a massive Air Force and Army while black pajamas and carrying AK-47s
air power is not everything. It usually just makes the enemy more determined to win in the long run
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Pissant teabaggers ain't nothing like those guys. I'm an asshole, I would use tactical nukes on 'em. Teabaggers that is.
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02-28-2013, 07:16 PM
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"Well maybe that is true but I have faith that our government and nation will never get to that point."
Me too. But there seems to be a right many people who seem to believe we are reaching that point and that the time for peaceful demonstration is passing. Good luck to them. I think they are stupid and stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting anywhere with it, but...............well, there you have it.
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02-28-2013, 09:31 PM
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Actually the North Vietnamese had a modern army that wore regular uniforms....the Viet Cong wore the black pajamas
well
in the movie Green Berets they did I think...such an accurate portrayal of the War.
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02-28-2013, 09:59 PM
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I think those two nukes did the Japanese in Dave. Well I guess that is air power.
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02-28-2013, 10:06 PM
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I think those two nukes did the Japanese in Dave. Well I guess that is air power.
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Regards,
Dave
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