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Old 08-29-2013, 10:52 PM
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The difference is they are paying it, jut to the temp agency. Why not do away with the temp agency and pay the employee from the get go. I still can't figure out the need for more middle men (Worked for temp agencies before. They make a hefty sum)
Temps are more disposable. The paper cup of the human race. Plus, there are no benefit costs.

My question is; Is someone really a "temp" when the employer has deliberately strung them out for 2-3 YEARS without hiring them?
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Old 08-29-2013, 10:45 PM
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Yes. Either 3 or 6 months, I don't remember.

Remember this is an entry level warehouse job. Easy to say they need to be paid $20, very difficult to pay it.

I made $3.18/hr my first real job. Netted perhaps $105-110 a week (I think it was $107 actually, but grey matter is dying ). Going to an inflation calc online I see that's equivalent to about $7.15.

I blame rich people like you guys 'Rich' is relative.

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$3.18 an hour was a lot of money back in the Cro-Magnon period. Maybe what we need to do is find a way to time travel the entire planet back to the days when everything was affordable and you could live quite comfortably on next to nothing, provided you could take down a Mastodon with a pointy stick.

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Old 08-30-2013, 09:33 AM
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$3.18 an hour was a lot of money back in the Cro-Magnon period. Maybe what we need to do is find a way to time travel the entire planet back to the days when everything was affordable and you could live quite comfortably on next to nothing, provided you could take down a Mastodon with a pointy stick.

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Beeeeleeeeve me, it wasn't a lot of money when I was making it!

Scrapped on the side for extra money. Not always exactly legal.

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Old 08-27-2013, 10:00 AM
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Oh they're getting the $10. The temp agency its probably charging upwards of $15-18.

When I sold temp help we were charging $12.50/hr for a $6/hr pay.

Which was more than what everyone else, including most of my coworkers, was paying ($5), I'd get the pick of the temp pool that way . Which sadly still wasn't great

There are legit reasons for using temp services to find new hires, most due to the turnover I mentioned previously.

Interesting sidenote, I bumped into a lot of racism in very small blue collar businesses. 'Can you get me a white guy?'

Keep in mind this was over 25 years ago now and I started cold calling from the back of the telephone book, lots of eastern European guys. Anyway I told them the truth - not only is it illegal, the blue collar working black guys were much more reliable overall than whatever white golden-boy temp we could supply that week.

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Oh they're getting the $10. The temp agency its probably stealing upwards of $15-18.

When I pimped temp help we were charging $12.50/hr for a $6/hr pay.

Which was more than what everyone else, including most of my coworkers, was paying ($5), I'd get the pick of the temp pool that way . Which sadly still wasn't great

There are legit reasons for using temp services to find new hires, most due to the turnover I mentioned previously.

Interesting sidenote, I bumped into a lot of racism in very small blue collar businesses. 'Can you get me a white guy?'

NO! Businessmen racist? That's absurd. Next thing I know, you'll tell me some of them were cheap bastards.

Keep in mind this was over 25 years ago now and I started cold calling from the back of the telephone book, lots of eastern European guys. Anyway I told them the truth - not only is it illegal, the blue collar working black guys were much more reliable overall than whatever white golden-boy temp we could supply that week.

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The white boys were more likely---------Republicans who think they have a birthright to a desk job and air conditioning.

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Old 08-27-2013, 10:37 AM
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If your company gave the worker 13 bucks with a probationary 90 days and then benefits they might stay longer. I think your company would rather pay the temp agency and continue with the temp help because it is cheaper in the long run than giving people benefits.

I bet your place is back breaking work not worth $10 maybe that is why no one stays.
The guys that leave probably know the game and go onto better things hopefully.
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Old 08-27-2013, 10:49 AM
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We don't have permanent temps here. People who don't get let go here during their temp period (which is the same as probationary period), usually but not always for tardiness / failure to show (sometimes for general laziness or intoxication) tend to stay. We have low turnover among permanent hires. It's not back breaking. Overall it's a pretty good place to work for.

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Even for Ohio $10 bucks has to be barely enough to scrape by on. What is awful is that my wife makes about the same here in Cali....at a Casino. She is more fortunate because of course she has my income to fall back on. But it has to be hell on earth for anyone making so low an amount here without another income to fall back on. That is why everyone is working three jobs when one used to do.
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