Our auto industry is dependent on China.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

The auto industry in the USA became dependent on Chinese integrated circuit chips. That is so wrong on many levels.

The situation is crippling the industry, damaging the US economy, and maybe even placing us at risk when it comes to military strategy.

It seems like we could ramp up IC chip production domestically.

Private enterprise is having chips made.
Private enterprise has the chips made where the costs are lowest for the highest profit.
It would take the government getting involved to bring the industry back here to be competitive in producing our own chips. Private enterprise isn't interested in the national good. Private enterprise doesn't want the government horning in on their business (and profits).

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Private enterprise is having chips made.
Private enterprise has the chips made where the costs are lowest for the highest profit.
It would take the government getting involved to bring the industry back here to be competitive in producing our own chips. Private enterprise isn't interested in the national good. Private enterprise doesn't want the government horning in on their business (and profits).

This capitalism thing is out of control.

Y'all should appoint me as your dicktator.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Private enterprise is having chips made.
Private enterprise has the chips made where the costs are lowest for the highest profit.
It would take the government getting involved to bring the industry back here to be competitive in producing our own chips. Private enterprise isn't interested in the national good. Private enterprise doesn't want the government horning in on their business (and profits).

Originally Posted by Chicks

Intel selects Ohio for ‘largest silicon manufacturing location on the planet’
Intel will spend at least $20 billion on new manufacturing hub near Columbus

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/21/2...essor-shortage

Well shut my mouth The sooner we can get that silicon into products here the better. Now if we can only keep the politicians away.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Well shut my mouth The sooner we can get that silicon into products here the better. Now if we can only keep the politicians away.

The politician is an integral part of the business.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The politician is an integral part of the business.

For better or worse.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

For better or worse.

In our Democracy, bribery and corruption are a byproduct of Free Speech.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Private enterprise is having chips made.
Private enterprise has the chips made where the costs are lowest for the highest profit.
It would take the government getting involved to bring the industry back here to be competitive in producing our own chips. Private enterprise isn't interested in the national good. Private enterprise doesn't want the government horning in on their business (and profits).

Exactly. The government never sent a single manufacturing job overseas. Neither did the unions, environmentalists or any organization but private business and they did it of their own free will.

Now, try explaining that to a Republican and watch his head explode. The Republican will lay sole blame at the feet of "Big Government", Clinton and "Liberals", however......

The GOP removed Free Trade from their platform less than five years ago and their base has completely forgotten the GOP was ever in favor of it, yet the initial proposals for NAFTA came from the Reagan Administration and were advanced by GHWB. Remember the meetings with Vincente Fox and Bush the First? Remember the "Ceremonial Signing" of NAFTA? Regardless, opening a door doesn't make them or anyone else but private industry to blame for walking out.

[BigElCat]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Exactly. The government never sent a single manufacturing job overseas. Neither did the unions, environmentalists or any organization but private business and they did it of their own free will.

Now, try explaining that to a Republican and watch his head explode. The Republican will lay sole blame at the feet of "Big Government", Clinton and "Liberals", however......

The GOP removed Free Trade from their platform less than five years ago and their base has completely forgotten the GOP was ever in favor of it, yet the initial proposals for NAFTA came from the Reagan Administration and were advanced by GHWB. Remember the meetings with Vincente Fox and Bush the First? Remember the "Ceremonial Signing" of NAFTA? Regardless, opening a door doesn't make them or anyone else but private industry to blame for walking out.

As I recall, NAFTA was a collusion between government and private industry. The people that profited are the ones that built the corridor (at least in Texas). The goal was to circumvent the Unions that controlled shipping on the two seaboards by bringing cargo up through Mexico and Texas.

The Carlyle Group ran the prices up on warehouse property along I-35. Bought what they could. I know of one company that paid Carlyle millions of dollars just to stop bidding against them on one mid-sized warehouse.

Correction; The Carlyle Group was bidding against GAF for the ownership of a company called ELK. It involved more than one warehouse.

[BigElCat]

Just to clarify.

This was right before (then President) George W. distanced himself from the Carlyle Group. Carlyle went after one division of the ELK company, trying to out-bid GAF. As if The Carlyle Group manufactured anything besides military vehicles.

The only thing I could figure out, was that they wanted the real estate in the NAFTA corridor. GAF had to pay The Carlyle Group (IIRC $2 million) to stop bidding.

Wound up to be this company; https://www.gaf.com/en-us/about-us/n...uxury-shingles

I suppose building materials would be a good investment if you were going to do re-construction in a war zone.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

This capitalism thing is out of control.

Y'all should appoint me as your dicktator.

Originally Posted by RickeyM

Private enterprise is having chips made.
Private enterprise has the chips made where the costs are lowest for the highest profit.
It would take the government getting involved to bring the industry back here to be competitive in producing our own chips. Private enterprise isn't interested in the national good. Private enterprise doesn't want the government horning in on their business (and profits).

Americans are willing to pay higher prices for goods made in the USA

Despite statements in articles in places like USA Today from assholes like Nick Ayers who was assistant to the president and chief of staff to the vice president in the Trump administration, saying that Americans will gladly pay more to have all the chips and batteries and drugs and electronics and all the subcontracted auto parts, etc., made in this country. Americans will piss and moan about the prices they pay...because corporate America is not going to reduce their profit margins so that entitled Americans will stop their sniveling about prices. And the fact is that decent profits are important to American business...no profits, no jobs.