Will Trump and the Birthers now shut up?

[Krazygrrl]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Watch out, you're letting you emotions get the best of you. It is even causing you to misrepresent what I say. I am not on a crusade, I am engaged in calling spin spin. It is dishonest to say that an alleged comment against a group of political negotiators is a comment about an entire movement of citizens. There was spin in the video - the spin is that Welch whined that he had been called a terrorist, and that he like others have tried to do, wanted to take the alleged criticism of negotiating techniques to a much broader meaning. That dishonesty is what I have been challenging, and what I will continue to challenge.

Maybe we should highlight an outrageous comment. "The people who are threatening not to pass the debt ceiling are our version of al Qaeda terrorists. Really,"

What wild-eyed American-hating Democrat said that? Oops, it wasn't a Democrat, but George Bush's treasury secretary, Paul Oneill.

Regards,

D-Ray

Paul O'neill's comments are equally crude, I too am opposed to them. We were, however, discussing Joe Biden and his friends. The people that you have defended tooth-and-nail, and that you have, in my opinion, given a "free pass" to. How do I know this: "Welch whined that he was called a terrorist..." It is my personal perception, from what I have seen in the threads on this forum, that a huge double standard exists in treatment. The same as in the press. I wonder why vicious, racist, and inflammatory statements from Democrats like Jessie Jackson, Jr., for example, get so little attention? Why is he not being called out? Or Charlie Rangel, Or Biden (rapes in the streets), or Franks, or Reid, Or Pelosi??? The only one who made very few of these, and has been challenged on everyone, is Barrack Obama; that goes to his credit. I may despise that man, but he does not say the outrageous things his party leadership does.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Krazygrrl

Paul O'neill's comments are equally crude, I too am opposed to them. We were, however, discussing Joe Biden and his friends. The people that you have defended tooth-and-nail, and that you have, in my opinion, given a "free pass" to. How do I know this: "Welch whined that he was called a terrorist..." It is my personal perception, from what I have seen in the threads on this forum, that a huge double standard exists in treatment. The same as in the press. I wonder why vicious, racist, and inflammatory statements from Democrats like Jessie Jackson, Jr., for example, get so little attention? Why is he not being called out? Or Charlie Rangel, Or Biden (rapes in the streets), or Franks, or Reid, Or Pelosi??? The only one who made very few of these, and has been challenged on everyone, is Barrack Obama; that goes to his credit. I may despise that man, but he does not say the outrageous things his party leadership does.

Why do you despise Obie?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Krazygrrl

I wonder why vicious, racist, and inflammatory statements from Democrats like Jessie Jackson, Jr., for example, get so little attention? Why is he not being called out? Or Charlie Rangel, Or Biden (rapes in the streets), or Franks, or Reid, Or Pelosi???

KG, if outrageous statements from these people were not covered in the press (as you assert), you wouldn't be in a position to know about them. Of course they're covered. In fact, they probably get more coverage than they're due as a result of the right wing echo chamber of Talk Radio and Faux News.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Krazygrrl

Paul O'neill's comments are equally crude, I too am opposed to them. We were, however, discussing Joe Biden and his friends. The people that you have defended tooth-and-nail, and that you have, in my opinion, given a "free pass" to. How do I know this: "Welch whined that he was called a terrorist..." It is my personal perception, from what I have seen in the threads on this forum, that a huge double standard exists in treatment. The same as in the press. I wonder why vicious, racist, and inflammatory statements from Democrats like Jessie Jackson, Jr., for example, get so little attention? Why is he not being called out? Or Charlie Rangel, Or Biden (rapes in the streets), or Franks, or Reid, Or Pelosi??? The only one who made very few of these, and has been challenged on everyone, is Barrack Obama; that goes to his credit. I may despise that man, but he does not say the outrageous things his party leadership does.

I am simply stating that your allegations are inaccurate. They are at best a wildly exaggerated. What you cited to as proof of your position was, in fact, a recitation of the spin that the GOP has used to similarly misrepresent what was said. What I have staunchly defended is not what Biden allegedly said, but the truth.

Biden denied that he made the statement you have attributed to him. Obama denied that Biden made the statement. Others who were present at the meeting denied that Biden made the statement. (BTW, Welch was NOT present at that meeting.) Is it just because these people are Democrats that you accuse them of lying?

It seems like the higher standard that you have set for the Vice President is to avoid people ever lying about what he said.

Regards,

D-Ray