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03-21-2016, 10:01 AM
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FDR was not a friend to the common man.
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03-21-2016, 10:09 AM
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FDR was not a friend to the common man.
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Yeah, I can't wait to read it.
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03-21-2016, 10:16 AM
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Nailer is full of s&it.
Millions of Americans who lived through the Depression felt strongly enough to re-elect him an unprecedented three times. Only a myopic fool would discount Social Security, arguably the most powerful tool cementing together American loyalty to the concept of the United States since Hamilton's decision to make the American currency good for all debts public and private.
And anyone who knows about FDR's creation of a place for his fellow "polios" in Warm Springs Georgia knows about his ability to connect with others who were victims of his disease.
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03-21-2016, 10:34 AM
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Nailer is full of s&it.
Millions of Americans who lived through the Depression felt strongly enough to re-elect him an unprecedented three times. Only a myopic fool would discount Social Security, arguably the most powerful tool cementing together American loyalty to the concept of the United States since Hamilton's decision to make the American currency good for all debts public and private.
And anyone who knows about FDR's creation of a place for his fellow "polios" in Warm Springs Georgia knows about his ability to connect with others who were victims of his disease.
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Am not. The New Deal was a minimalist appeasement to keep the mob from rebellion and as Pio pointed out FDR was a great salesman. He was also a great leader and it was our dominant position at the end of WWII and the myth of that and our post war dominance, not New Deal SS, that provided your cement.
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03-21-2016, 10:46 AM
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Am not. The New Deal was a minimalist appeasement to keep the mob from rebellion and as Pio pointed out FDR was a great salesman. He was also a great leader and it was our dominant position at the end of WWII and the myth of that and our post war dominance, not New Deal SS, that provided your cement.
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Yeah whatever. You are on SS or will be soon. And we will never get rid of it nor Medicare.
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03-21-2016, 10:56 AM
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Yeah whatever. You are on SS or will be soon. And we will never get rid of it nor Medicare.
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No I'm not, nor will I be unless Congress makes my pension part of SS.
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03-21-2016, 11:04 AM
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No I'm not, nor will I be unless Congress makes my pension part of SS.
What's the point of your second sentence? It has nothing to do with my pointing our what the New Deal was.
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As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.
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03-21-2016, 11:21 AM
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As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.
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The deals being made in parts of Europe were revolutionary.
Now we're looking at paying the price of the New Deal not being a good deal unless something revolutionary occurs soon.
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03-22-2016, 03:22 PM
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As I said before, it was revolutionary. Part of your problem seems to be a failure to view the New Deal in context. Nothing like it had ever been done before or even tried and the results were spectacularly successful.
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Is someone really arguing that the New Deal was not a rousing success?
That is just insane.
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03-21-2016, 10:24 AM
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A radical leftist wouldn't require elaboration.
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