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Old 01-26-2017, 09:43 AM
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Trump's Wall

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Can anyone provide some info on this. I don't mean specifics of his motive, or size, cost etc of the wall. What I am wondering about is the legality of the wall. What does it take to actually make this happen? Executive orders? Act of congress? What

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Old 01-26-2017, 10:06 AM
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One stumbling block will be that "Trump's Folly" will have to be built on privately owned land. I guess he will have to invoke eminent domain in some of these cases. Not exactly a pillar of Republican thought.

Physically, it's fairly daunting. There is terrain it will have to cross that doesn't easily lend itself to building some sort of huge wall. Costs will have to be astronomical and congress holds the purse strings.

Personally, I'd rather see those billions (trillions?) of tax dollars go towards upgrading railroads (hi-speed rail), highways and other infrastructure such as cleaner energy production.

Just spit balling here on the left coast sans coffee...(grin)
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:16 AM
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I believe there is legislation enacted for some years now for the wall.

BTW the wall need not be physical in every sector.
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Old 01-26-2017, 10:19 AM
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This is all you need to know.

“I will build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me. Believe me. And I’ll build it very inexpensively. I’ll build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words,”

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Old 01-26-2017, 10:22 AM
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Secure Fence Act of 2006

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:59 AM
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This is all you need to know.

“I will build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me. Believe me. And I’ll build it very inexpensively. I’ll build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words,”

Donald J. Trump
At least 3 lies there.
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Old 01-26-2017, 01:47 PM
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One stumbling block will be that "Trump's Folly" will have to be built on privately owned land. I guess he will have to invoke eminent domain in some of these cases. Not exactly a pillar of Republican thought.

.(grin)
I disagree. Those oil pipelines are all about confiscating property via eminent domain, they are pillars of republican thought.
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:12 PM
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Old 01-26-2017, 02:19 PM
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I still don't see Congress funding this fence nor funding any infrastructure either.


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Old 01-26-2017, 02:41 PM
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Fun thread.

Aside from the legal hurdles and funding, I have been noodling on whether the wall would be effective in the long term.

Walls have been around a long time and, unless they are architecturally interesting, get torn down by political forces. In this case it seems that we are talking about an ugly wall and my guess is that no one wants to look at it for too long. Also, if we are building a wall and the purpose is to keep people out, then it should have few gates.

And there, in the number of gates, is the rub that I have. There will be gates for visitors, migration, and trade. Someone would need to tell me how they are going to gate the ugly thing in a way that satisfies an expected visitor, migration, and trade flow equilibrium. See, the bigger issue IMO, is that those in favor of the wall lean more toward a short term status-quo than a long-term equilibrium.

Just thinking out loud.
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