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01-14-2014, 09:43 PM
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1.4 Million Out Of Work American Workers Are A Political Football?
"On Tuesday, Senate Republicans rejected two proposals to extend unemployment insurance. A core group of Republican senators has tried to broker a compromise, but the bill became a battleground over Senate procedures, and Republicans filibustered to protest what they viewed as unfair rules imposed by Democrats to restrict their ability to offer amendments to the measure."
A$$holes.
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01-14-2014, 10:21 PM
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Nice.
I think of all the workin' class folks who vote for these dicks that think they don't need it anyways........until they need it and then it had better damn well be there, because they've earned it.
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01-15-2014, 10:05 AM
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So, exactly how long should an individual receive unemployment benefits? Unemployment benefits are managed by the Feds and the States in a similar manner to disability coverage. Benefits paid are valued up to a pre-determined amount based on an individuals income, and extend for (until recently) a pre-determined duration.
There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the longer an individual remains unemployed in any capacity, the more harmful it is to the individual. Not only does their productivity / effectiveness decrease, but their bargaining power in the marketplace also decreases. Not to mention the long term damage to self - esteem that comes with being out of work.
So, how long should unemployment benefits reasonably continue? Should there be a point that benefits cease, for the long term good of the individual?
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01-15-2014, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
So, exactly how long should an individual receive unemployment benefits? Unemployment benefits are managed by the Feds and the States in a similar manner to disability coverage. Benefits paid are valued up to a pre-determined amount based on an individuals income, and extend for (until recently) a pre-determined duration.
There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the longer an individual remains unemployed in any capacity, the more harmful it is to the individual. Not only does their productivity / effectiveness decrease, but their bargaining power in the marketplace also decreases. Not to mention the long term damage to self - esteem that comes with being out of work.
So, how long should unemployment benefits reasonably continue? Should there be a point that benefits cease, for the long term good of the individual?
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Oh maybe until there are jobs available? It is simply an HR myth that people who are unemployed for long periods lose their skills. Having been retired for nearly ten years I an tell you that I have not lost a damn thing. Companies have been using the benefits of easy money (Interest rate at 0% according to Bernanke) along with increased productivity to build high profit margins but they only work existing satff harder rather than hire.
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01-15-2014, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the longer an individual remains unemployed in any capacity, the more harmful it is to the individual.
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Duh.
Ya think?
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Originally Posted by whell
So, how long should unemployment benefits reasonably continue? Should there be a point that benefits cease, for the long term good of the individual?
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If the Republicans would quit obstructing and start supporting a goddamn government jobs program which is what we need because the private sector sure as shit ain't gonna get it done, then maybe we wouldn't have so many unemployed.
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01-15-2014, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by merrylander
Oh maybe until there are jobs available? It is simply an HR myth that people who are unemployed for long periods lose their skills. Having been retired for nearly ten years I an tell you that I have not lost a damn thing. Companies have been using the benefits of easy money (Interest rate at 0% according to Bernanke) along with increased productivity to build high profit margins but they only work existing satff harder rather than hire.
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I doubt that you have lost anything, but has the industry (or any occupation) changed?
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01-15-2014, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
Oh maybe until there are jobs available? It is simply an HR myth that people who are unemployed for long periods lose their skills. Having been retired for nearly ten years I an tell you that I have not lost a damn thing. Companies have been using the benefits of easy money (Interest rate at 0% according to Bernanke) along with increased productivity to build high profit margins but they only work existing satff harder rather than hire.
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For your consideration. http://www.econ.ucla.edu/tvwachter/p...ages_paper.pdf
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01-15-2014, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
So, exactly how long should an individual receive unemployment benefits? Unemployment benefits are managed by the Feds and the States in a similar manner to disability coverage. Benefits paid are valued up to a pre-determined amount based on an individuals income, and extend for (until recently) a pre-determined duration.
There is sufficient evidence to suggest that the longer an individual remains unemployed in any capacity, the more harmful it is to the individual. Not only does their productivity / effectiveness decrease, but their bargaining power in the marketplace also decreases. Not to mention the long term damage to self - esteem that comes with being out of work.
So, how long should unemployment benefits reasonably continue? Should there be a point that benefits cease, for the long term good of the individual?
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Yeah, I know.
So, ya think maybe certain crybabies should suck in their lower lips, realize the world is changing whether they like it or not and just start creating some jobs?
I do.
Dave
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01-15-2014, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Yeah, I know.
So, ya think maybe certain crybabies should suck in their lower lips, realize the world is changing whether they like it or not and just start creating some jobs?
I do.
Dave
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Or, some folks who are sitting on the sidelines waiting for someone else to making things happen go out and make it happen for themselves?
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01-15-2014, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Duh.
Ya think?
If the Republicans would quit obstructing and start supporting a goddamn government jobs program which is what we need because the private sector sure as shit ain't gonna get it done, then maybe we wouldn't have so many unemployed.
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That, of course, denies over 200 years of history. But hey, you're on a roll.
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