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Old 09-27-2016, 11:51 AM
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I never have. I always take that card they mail you because with my full name it is so much easier to hand the card to them rather than trying to spell it for them.


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Old 09-27-2016, 11:53 AM
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The point is if your illegal why should you get to vote. Don't like it ? They can go back to where they came from and vote there.

Every state I have lived in has required a ID of some type to vote.
That is an unwarranted logical leap. You assume that someone who does not have an ID is illegal. It could just as well be that the voter is old and does not drive (a drivers license being the most common type of photo id), that the voter is poor and does not have the resources to get an ID, that the voter lives in an area where driving is not necessary and so doesn't have a drivers license, or that the voter has to work two jobs and doesn't have time to get a special ID. It might just be that some folks are too lazy to get an ID, but there is nothing in the Constitution that disqualifies lazy folks from voting. The voter ID laws are a transparent attempt to suppress voting turnout. The justification for requiring ID is patently false. The number of cases of voter fraud based on false representation of identity is microscopic in proportion to the voters disenfranchised by these laws.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:57 AM
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Its been a long time since those days.
Still works that way here in California.
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Old 09-27-2016, 11:58 AM
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The point is if your illegal why should you get to vote. Don't like it ? They can go back to where they came from and vote there.

Every state I have lived in has required a ID of some type to vote.
No, the point is that it doesn't happen.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:15 PM
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Its been a long time since those days.
The point is, that simple system would block your casual alien from voting. You gotta register. Who wants to register illegally? It's kind of asking for it. Illegals tend to keep their heads down.

How may people are going to go through the hoops, at personal risk for prison and/or deportation, to do election fraud? Thousands and thousands, in town after town after town, tipping elections right and left? Only in Alt reality.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:42 PM
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Still works that way here in California.
I can attest to that as a longtime pollworker here in California.
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Old 09-27-2016, 05:42 PM
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My question would be that if they are illegal, do they even care to vote? I would bet not. If they wanted to vote I would also bet they became legal. I just can't see that long of term thinking by the people who came over illegally. They are mostly worried about surviving the day and tomorrow. Not what happens to our country next year or the year after. My$0.02 worth
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Old 09-28-2016, 04:07 AM
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I love the conclusions being drawn about me here. Did anyone here read my first post.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:25 AM
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People from Germany or Italy or anywhere can't just wander into a polling place and vote. The thing called 'registration' exists. Always used to be, you didn't show an ID, but you recited your name and address, and the poll worker had to find what you said on the list for that polling place. Then, if you weren't marked as having voted already, you got to vote.

Simple. No problems.
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That is an unwarranted logical leap. You assume that someone who does not have an ID is illegal. It could just as well be that the voter is old and does not drive (a drivers license being the most common type of photo id), that the voter is poor and does not have the resources to get an ID, that the voter lives in an area where driving is not necessary and so doesn't have a drivers license, or that the voter has to work two jobs and doesn't have time to get a special ID. It might just be that some folks are too lazy to get an ID, but there is nothing in the Constitution that disqualifies lazy folks from voting. The voter ID laws are a transparent attempt to suppress voting turnout. The justification for requiring ID is patently false. The number of cases of voter fraud based on false representation of identity is microscopic in proportion to the voters disenfranchised by these laws.
A system that used to be "Simple. No problems" has been ravaged by political corruption and an influx of individuals who do not have the right to vote but could easily register to vote. The left loves to characterize voter ID laws as "transparent attempt to suppress voting turnout". Yet those arguments fail to address legitimate concerns about securing the voting process for citizens.
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Old 09-28-2016, 10:39 AM
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The point is if your illegal why should you get to vote. Don't like it ? They can go back to where they came from and vote there.

Every state I have lived in has required a ID of some type to vote.
Here, a driver's licence is sufficient to confirm registered voter identification. Other forms may also be acceptable.
Areas with high population turnover may have unique problems with registration, citizens with a long standing residency shouldn't have problems voting, unless imposed thru rules changes targeting them.


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