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06-10-2016, 09:08 AM
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I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion as I haven't seen this in Sanders. And Hillary's ties to big business are well known.
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It's just the polydactyl pussy trying to pass cynicism off as wisdom again.
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06-10-2016, 09:10 AM
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I agree. I heard the speech too and in it he said all the things I'm still waiting for Hillary the other "democrat" to say.
So far to me Hillary sounds like Reagan.
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Except Reagan was a competent speaker.
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06-10-2016, 09:21 AM
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I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion as I haven't seen this in Sanders. And Hillary's ties to big business are well known.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b00f97fba7e023
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06-10-2016, 09:33 AM
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Believe me, I understand your feelings, Rajoo, but that's the wrong focus and a waste of energy. What we need to do is build the movement and keep pushing for the changes we want. We need to work to to elect progressives to Congress in 2018 and 2020 so that President Warren has something to work with.
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John, we need to get a progressive movement going and the party sorely lacks leaders since most if not all have become Republicans. Bernie and Warren could lead the movement and once this is afoot, then electing progressives to the House and Senate will happen.
And in doing so Hillary will be limited to one term. Considering her unpopularity now, imagine where this would be in two to three years. Single digits or low teens I predict.
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06-10-2016, 09:40 AM
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And in doing so Hillary will be limited to one term. Considering her unpopularity now, imagine where this would be in two to three years. Single digits or low teens I predict.
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That's my point. Focus on the positive of building a movement and problems like Hillary will disappear as a result. Focusing on getting rid of Hillary brings too much negative energy to bear and as a result could backfire.
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06-10-2016, 09:47 AM
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And in doing so Hillary will be limited to one term. Considering her unpopularity now, imagine where this would be in two to three years. Single digits or low teens I predict.
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That's my point. Focus on the positive of building a movement and problems like Hillary will disappear as a result. Focusing on getting rid of Hillary brings too much negative energy to bear and as a result could backfire.[/QUOTE]
I must not have made myself clear. My focus was not on Hillary, anything but. Progressive movement is where my interest and focus is and will be. I am simply going to ignore Hillary's very existence for the immediate future.
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06-10-2016, 09:49 AM
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Howard Dean
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Howard Dean relevant? To whom?
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06-10-2016, 10:28 AM
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Howard Dean relevant? To whom?
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Mid-major college basketball coaches everywhere.
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06-10-2016, 10:44 AM
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Howard Dean relevant? To whom?
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Not any more. He's a lobbyist and a Hillary surrogate these days but He was a very effective as the head of the DNC.
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06-10-2016, 11:25 AM
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I wonder when the Bro contingent are going to throw Senator Professor Warren under the bus for being a Hillary sell out?
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