Bernie Caves

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I heard that speech. He didn't "cave" at all.

Our republican friend was just expressing his unbiased, well-reasoned opinion.

[catswiththum]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Our republican friend was just expressing his unbiased, well-reasoned opinion.

All are free to stay on the Bernie train and continue to be true believers - at least that is honest, more so than Bernie.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I heard that speech. He didn't "cave" at all.

Same here. +1

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Boreas

That very much remains to be seen. He has started a movement with broader support and greater ideological clarity than the Tea Party. We'll have to see where that leads.

How many second place primary finishers actually remain relevant in the general election? How relevant is Ted Cruz at the moment? How about Rick Santorum in 2012? About as relevant as the losers of the NFC or AFC championships during Super Bowl week.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by catswiththum

Sanders is no different than any other politician - in some ways worse.

He persuaded a lot of well meaning, gullible supporters his campaign was about truth and not giving in to corporate corruption - he railed against Hillary for her ties to everything he was campaigning against.
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I'm wondering how you came to this conclusion as I haven't seen this in Sanders. And Hillary's ties to big business are well known.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Same here. +1

I agree. I heard the speech too and in it he said all the things I'm still waiting for Hillary the other "democrat" to say.

So far to me Hillary sounds like Reagan.

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Bernie should resign from the Senate and lead a progressive movement. We need to ensure that Hillary is a one term president. If not she will move the country too far to the right on the pretext of reaching across the aisle.

Indeed. The democratic party certainly is no longer progressive.

The country as it is has already moved too far right if it thinks Hillary is progressive or in any way liberal.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by MrPots

Indeed. The democratic party certainly is no longer progressive.

The country as it is has already moved too far right if it thinks Hillary is progressive or in any way liberal.

Truer words were never spoken.

We now have two Republicans running on the major party tickets.

+1

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

Bernie should resign from the Senate and lead a progressive movement. We need to ensure that Hillary is a one term president. If not she will move the country too far to the right on the pretext of reaching across the aisle.

Believe me, I understand your feelings, Rajoo, but that's the wrong focus and a waste of energy. What we need to do is build the movement and keep pushing for the changes we want. We need to work to to elect progressives to Congress in 2018 and 2020 so that President Warren has something to work with.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

How many second place primary finishers actually remain relevant in the general election? How relevant is Ted Cruz at the moment? How about Rick Santorum in 2012? About as relevant as the losers of the NFC or AFC championships during Super Bowl week.

Howard Dean