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Old 05-12-2016, 10:16 AM
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The plan could have succeeded if Kennedy was committed. The invading Cubans never forgive him for his denial of the promised air support.
And what was the mind of the majority of Cubans? Were they pro or anti revolution at the time? Did Castro have popular support?

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In the documentary I listed above, it talks about hte bay of pigs. According to it, Kennedy never agreed to our military assistance in the invasion. The principles thought he would go along with the the invasion once he saw how it was going to fail. he surprised them and did not. At least this is how it is presented in the documentary.
He never agreed to "overt" military assistance (US markings on military equipment were removed). However once the invasion was in trouble Kennedy did not show any initiative.
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If Castro's was a popular revolution, how would the BoP invasion have succeeded reversing it?

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If Castro's was a popular revolution, how would the BoP invasion have succeeded reversing it?

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It was difficult to assess the real popularity of the revolution given the extremes of the Castro regime at the time. However let us assume it to be popular, I do not believe it could survive a determine US government which was open to total invasion and suppression.

Kennedy wanted to conceal the true nature of US policies and intentions. Other elements in US felt that once the invasion was undertaken, the US should have taken off its own mask and get creative.
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Our track record on this sort of thing is to impose a commercially compliant tyranny in place of a regime we find otherwise, to the detriment of the people at large.
Was Castro in those early days less a tyrant then Batista, and therefore preferable to the common folk?

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Kennedy inherited the Bay of Pigs Invasion from Ike. The plans were set before he was sworn in.
He was the one that ordered it however.
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:36 PM
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Most successful revolutionaries suck at governance after the fact, Castro is just another example. Still, was life after the revolution better or worse for the common man?
Just how much local support could we have expected?
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