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Old 02-13-2013, 03:05 PM
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Sandy was right, when you stop making money by making things and instead make money by manipulating money - hey that's what the do in casinos isn't it?
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:36 AM
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Sorry guys, but there's no righties in Cleveland.

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Old 02-14-2013, 09:06 AM
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You know those firefighters that went into the World Trade Center and died while it collapsed were probably all union...

My take is you want a well paid police or firefighter coming after you in an emergency,
one that has a stake in society and job security. If I was a policeman or firefighter working for a right to work boss or an organization that low balled me on wages I am going to think twice before rushing into a burning house....

think I am wrong? Why do think the military gets the great health care and good retirement? No one is going to put their life on the line for a weak 401k...

gosh I sound like an unpatriotic lefty but that is far from the truth lol
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:25 AM
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Fine, but we have situations like the 63 car chase, and the last place I lived had a cop that enjoyed smashing peoples faces in, literally - couldn't get rid of him till he did it off duty.

Also at a fridau HS football game a local cop with a kid on the team gathered the other men (my neighbor one of them) and warned them that the cops were cracking down on DUIs - for money.

It's out of control.

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Old 02-14-2013, 02:31 PM
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Fine, but we have situations like the 63 car chase, and the last place I lived had a cop that enjoyed smashing peoples faces in, literally - couldn't get rid of him till he did it off duty.

Also at a fridau HS football game a local cop with a kid on the team gathered the other men (my neighbor one of them) and warned them that the cops were cracking down on DUIs - for money.

It's out of control.

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Cleveland isn't the only place that has union cops by a long shot. But, Cleveland and LA do seem to have more corruption than most.

It brings to mind something Lee Iacocca said about unions in one of his books; (Paraphrased.)

"All of our domestic plants are union. But some are very productive and some are downright terrible. What I've realized is that behind every out of control militant union atmosphere is a management team that has no balls."

In other words your problem isn't the police union, it's the dickless pansies that manage them.

I refer you to Michigan, where the Republican Party has succeded in adopting Right to Work................but exempted the police. (Dickless pansies)

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Old 02-14-2013, 09:33 AM
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If you are following the rules you should be ok
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:54 AM
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Sandy was right, when you stop making money by making things and instead make money by manipulating money - hey that's what the do in casinos isn't it?
I dunno, Merrylander. Seems to me the casinos do make things. After all, they make fools out of people at times, no?
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:35 PM
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I wonder what he'd say about Cleveland, where there's only one choice of management.

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Old 02-14-2013, 03:19 PM
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There are some necessary evils in life. I know motorcycle cops and red light cameras are a pain in the ass but we need the police. If we were all angels we would not need any controls over personal behavior but alas.....
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There are some necessary evils in life. I know motorcycle cops and red light cameras are a pain in the ass but we need the police. If we were all angels we would not need any controls over personal behavior but alas.....
Nanny statist! I have a constitutional right to drive as fast as I like and ignore traffic signals all I want! FREEDOM! FREEDOM!

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