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Game Changer?
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02-12-2016, 12:02 AM
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It's about time...........
Until you factor in road taxes.
We would of had electric car in the masses long ago if they could of figured out that one.
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02-12-2016, 11:05 AM
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It's about time...........
Until you factor in road taxes.
We would of had electric car in the masses long ago if they could of figured out that one.
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Sorry I disagree. It is the battery technology that kept us behind nor was there any battery development work done in the US. Then along came lithium-ion batteries, probably with the rapid advance of hand held devices and the industry took off.
We have an early 2000's electric forklift that uses sealed lead acid cells and you should see the size and weight of the battery pack, weighs close to thousand pounds!
Tesla batteries are made by Panasonic. Will there be a Technics SL 1200 Mk LIO that uses lithium ion batteries. Now that would be cool.
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02-12-2016, 11:17 AM
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Sorry I disagree. It is the battery technology that kept us behind nor was there any battery development work done in the US. Then along came lithium-ion batteries, probably with the rapid advance of hand held devices and the industry took off.
We have an early 2000's electric forklift that uses sealed lead acid cells and you should see the size and weight of the battery pack, weighs close to thousand pounds!
Tesla batteries are made by Panasonic. Will there be a Technics SL 1200 Mk LIO that uses lithium ion batteries. Now that would be cool.
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I think the issue Barney was speaking to is the difficulty figuring out how to replace the inevitable lost revenue from gasoline taxes. They're a huge contributor to highway construction and maintenance and would need to be replaced somehow. In the present political climate, any measures such as a surcharge on your electricity bill and/or a dedicated tax on charging station transactions would never get through Congress.
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02-12-2016, 11:22 AM
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I think the issue Barney was speaking to is the difficulty figuring out how to replace the inevitable lost revenue from gasoline taxes. They're a huge contributor to highway construction and maintenance and would need to be replaced somehow. In the present political climate, any measures such as a surcharge on your electricity bill and/or a dedicated tax on charging station transactions would never get through Congress.
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Based on miles driven and this can be easily monitored remotely. These days all of our utilities are measured remotely.
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02-12-2016, 11:25 AM
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Based on miles driven and this can be easily monitored remotely. These days all of our utilities are measured remotely.
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There are many ways to do it but try getting it through Congress. That's the problem.
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02-12-2016, 10:41 AM
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Page won't load, oh well.
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02-12-2016, 01:00 PM
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Page won't load, oh well.
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Link works here.
Here's the gist of it.
"Two of the world’s leading electric vehicle (EV) producers say that they will soon deliver 200+ mile range EVs at a game-changing price of $30,000 or less — including tax incentives."
"Until now, EVs have not been considered a mass-market consumer vehicle in the United States for two key reasons — high price and low range. But with battery prices continuing their unexpectedly rapid price drop, both General Motors and Tesla have announced that they can address both of those problems simultaneously in the near future. For GM, it will be the Chevy Bolt, and for Tesla, the Model 3." Think Progress
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02-12-2016, 11:18 AM
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Not a game changer. For example, I'm not ready to trade my V8 for an electric motor and I'm more progressive than most.
Our path to a warmer world with reduced living space is set if you believe mainstream science.
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I think having a congress that will do nothing it should do is a worse problem than a prospective shortage of highway maintenance funding.
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