|
|
We appreciate your help
in keeping this site going.
|
|
07-21-2010, 04:50 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,348
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
Just what are you saying - we were exceptional, but no longer are? If that's the case, Boss Limbaugh will have you excommunicated from the Official Church of the Wingnut.
|
Fine by me, but they'd best not touch me tin foil hat.
That thair wuld get a feller slapped upside his noggin wit an empty juga 86XX kewlaid!!!
Chas
|
11-25-2010, 09:22 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 396
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
Yep. Same applies to English and French history AFAIK. What is curious is that the same right wing that openly espouses disgust/hatred of our government concurrently says that our form of government is exceptional. Which one is it?
|
Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution.
Forget party labels.
What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior.
|
11-25-2010, 09:38 PM
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,348
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mossbacked
Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution.
Forget party labels.
What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior.
|
Fresh blood!!!
Mossy, old buddy, I kin already tell I like ya.
But ya need to pull on yer fireproof skivvies, cause it's gonna get hot!!!
Chas
|
11-25-2010, 10:09 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 396
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles
Fresh blood!!!
Mossy, old buddy, I kin already tell I like ya.
But ya need to pull on yer fireproof skivvies, cause it's gonna get hot!!!
Chas
|
Thanks Chas.
Yep, but a little heat is worth it if just 1 person realizes that if we don't play by those rules, we're going to regret that our we've become an "also ran" on the world scene.
|
11-25-2010, 11:02 PM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
"Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution."
True, and they will continue to do so. Even the ones you vote for, will, at some point, find the Constitution "inconvenient". I would just about gaurantee it.
"Forget party labels."
Sounds good to me. Since most of them aren't what they claim to be anyhow.
"What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior."
Which, in your opinion is---------------?
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
|
11-25-2010, 11:04 PM
|
|
Area Man
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: The Swamp
Posts: 27,407
|
|
"Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution."
True, and they will continue to do so. Even the ones you vote for, will, at some point, find the Constitution "inconvenient". I would just about gaurantee it.
"Forget party labels."
Sounds good to me. Since most of them aren't what they claim to be anyhow.
"What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior."
Which, in your opinion is............?
Dave
__________________
"When the lie is so big and the fog so thick, the Republican trick can play out again....."-------Frank Zappa
|
11-26-2010, 12:04 AM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 396
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueStreak
"Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution."
True, and they will continue to do so. Even the ones you vote for, will, at some point, find the Constitution "inconvenient". I would just about gaurantee it.
"Forget party labels."
Sounds good to me. Since most of them aren't what they claim to be anyhow.
"What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior."
Which, in your opinion is............?
Dave
|
. . . limited government, and certainly more local in nature when it has to exist.
|
11-26-2010, 02:22 AM
|
|
Loyal Opposition
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnson County, Kansas
Posts: 14,401
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mossbacked
Our current politicians, both parties and for quite some time, have trampled the US Constitution.
Forget party labels.
What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior.
|
Upon whose interpretation of the Constitution are you relying? Specifically what acts do you identify as being unconstitutional? A broad statement like that is pretty meaningless without some specific examples of constitutional violations.
Regards,
D-ray
__________________
Then I'll get on my knees and pray,
We won't get fooled again; Don't get fooled again
|
11-26-2010, 08:04 PM
|
|
Senior Member
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 396
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
Upon whose interpretation of the Constitution are you relying? Specifically what acts do you identify as being unconstitutional? A broad statement like that is pretty meaningless without some specific examples of constitutional violations.
Regards,
D-ray
|
Let's just consider the 2000+ pages of the "Affordable Care Act" good ole stitch lip signed into law on March 23rd.
There are probably tens of thousands of problems within those pages, but lets just consider you will go to jail if you don't buy it.
. . . Oh, wait, jail probably won't really happen. I think the bill calls for something like 20 bazillion new IRS Agents, so they really probably don't want jail time, just to sieze assets.
I personally sell a product that you would be better off for buying. Why can't I send you to jail if you don't buy one?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mossbacked
intent of the Constitution . . .
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by merrylander
. . . Which is?
|
To protect me from "The Government" by keeping me out of jail if I don't buy health insurance.
Oh, wait, I forgot the bill provides for the hiring of 20 bazillion new IRS Agents. Maybe they don't really want people to serve jail time when they can just sieze assets. Yep, that sounds Constitutional.
Last edited by mossbacked; 11-26-2010 at 08:16 PM.
|
11-26-2010, 07:16 AM
|
|
Resident octogenarian
|
|
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
Posts: 20,860
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mossbacked
What we need to get back to is the intent of the Constitution as that is what is truly makes this country exceptional beyond any framework conceived prior.
|
Which is?
__________________
Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:14 PM.
|