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11-07-2013, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
In the end, your party did everything they could to torpedo the ACA and can hardly be held blameless or ingenious.
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So, folks who didn't vote for something are responsible for it? That's a novel dodge.
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11-07-2013, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
So, folks who didn't vote for something are responsible for it? That's a novel dodge.
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Here's a novel idea, how about the party of 'NO' actually do some real governing instead of sucking on the Koch brothers dicks at the drop of a hat?
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11-07-2013, 09:27 PM
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I guess schools in Detroit don't teach civics studies? Correct me if I'm wrong but once an election or vote is taken, aren't we supposed to abide with the majority decision? and support it?
The Patient Protection & Affordable Care Act was passed by both houses of Congress, signed by the President and survived a legal challenge all the way to the Supreme Court.
The reason that I highlighted the first two words is a simple one. It removed pre existing conditions and lifetime caps, which is why these junk policies do not stack up and are therefore illegal. As a favorite (libertarianesque) sci-fi author of mine once said "TANSTAAFL", Mike. Grow up, bro.
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11-07-2013, 09:29 PM
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Location: The Swamp
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Originally Posted by JBS...
How Dave, I mean do you really think single payer is even possible seeing how Government has proven that they are incompetent and cant even write a website.
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Of course it's possible. It's done everywhere but here. The only reason we didn't do it years ago, is because we have too many pigheaded fools, dogmatically protecting the so-called "right" of insurance companies to rip us off.
The government has how many websites? It'll get fixed.
The employer sponsored system, with it's obscenely high premiums, abusive aspects like pre-existing conditions clauses, exclusivity that punishes people for being sick or unemployed, etc, etc, etc......... is a pig that needs to go.
And the sooner, the better.
Dave
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11-07-2013, 10:59 PM
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Location: San Diego via Vermilion Ohio and Points Between
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Originally Posted by JBS...
How Dave, I mean do you really think single payer is even possible seeing how Government has proven that they are incompetent and cant even write a website.
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I sent my first email in the Navy in 1989 on a government intranet, most likely a decade before your first e-mail. Wake up
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11-08-2013, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Maryland
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whell
So, folks who didn't vote for something are responsible for it? That's a novel dodge.
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I damn sure did not vote to invade Iraq but I am quite certain my taxes are paying for it. That statement of yours is infantile.
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11-08-2013, 06:31 AM
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The GOP has done more than 'not vote for it.' Much more. There was the court challenge that resulted in making medicare expansion a state option, followed by the refusal of many states to expand it, leaving many low-income people with no affordable coverage option. Then there is the refusal of many states to set up state exchanges. One-state-at-a-time seems to have been a much more doable IT task, the state exchanges are working well where they exist. I don't think it's too much to say the Republicans have been trying everything they can in many states to actively sabotage the ACA.
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11-08-2013, 06:57 AM
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PPACA is just the latest bastard child resulting from the government and the insurance companies being in bed together.
Therein lies the problem.
Chas
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11-08-2013, 07:08 AM
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Senior Member
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Originally Posted by Charles
PPACA is just the latest bastard child resulting from the government and the insurance companies being in bed together.
Therein lies the problem.
Chas
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We should have gone to a single payer system.
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11-08-2013, 07:10 AM
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Loyal Opposition
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Johnson County, Kansas
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Originally Posted by barbara
We should have gone to a single payer system.
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That is the consensus - or at least the majority view around here.
Regards,
D-Ray
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