How would you fix the economy ?

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by noonereal

I am in favorer of national health care but this is just not how to do it.

I do not support Obama on this.


(and I detest the right for twisting, lying and undermining what they know is best for the people that elected hem)

What is wrong with how he is doing it?

Other than the fact that he is keeping too much of the free market in an area where there is a HUGE conflict of interest between the insurance providers and their customers?

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by Bigerik

What is wrong with how he is doing it?

Other than the fact that he is keeping too much of the free market in an area where there is a HUGE conflict of interest between the insurance providers and their customers?

That is exactly the problem. There will be no cost cutting as virtually nothing will charge in the private market. Don't tell me about dropping pre existing conditions. The only reason this will change is because 50 million new folks will be forced to buy insurance from the Insurance companies. The profits enjoyed from that will more than outweigh the preexisting inclusion costs, hence Insurance companies are on board.

The drug benefit added to Medicare is a prime example of smoke and mirrors.
The biggest beneficiary of that was the drug companies, not the little guy as we are lead to believe.
This is the same crap.

We need the profit taken out of health care and a single payee. Most anything else is a disguise.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by noonereal

That is exactly the problem. There will be no cost cutting as virtually nothing will charge in the private market. Don't tell me about dropping pre existing conditions. The only reason this will change is because 50 million new folks will be forced to buy insurance from the Insurance companies. The profits enjoyed from that will more than outweigh the preexisting inclusion costs, hence Insurance companies are on board.

The drug benefit added to Medicare is a prime example of smoke and mirrors.
The biggest beneficiary of that was the drug companies, not the little guy as we are lead to believe.
This is the same crap.

We need the profit taken out of health care and a single payee. Most anything else is a disguise.

Yeah, but that would be socialism. Maybe even Communism!

[merrylander]

Tea Parties hoho, the original was kind of staged as well. The colonies asked the mother country for troops to put down the Indian raids on the western front. The mother country sent the troops and also sent the bill in the form of the tea tax, after all why should the citizens of England pick up the tab? The fact that the tax was also to help out the East India company, and General Cornwallis was an incompetent bumbler did not really affect the outcome.

It is much the same today, people say the government is incompetent, then for Heaven's sake don't vote for them. If you want to know what the problem is look in a mirror. Lou Dobbs favorite expression is that both parties are wings of the same bird. Then start a new party, some of you like Ron Paul (too simplistic for my taste) some people did vote for Ralph Nader and the Green party. The whole concept of a two party system seems entrenched in this country. Keep going down that road and you will never see any improvement. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

What were the lyrics - "Freedom is just another name for nothing more to lose." Like it or not people need each other, it is called society, and no, screwing each other is not the way to achieve it.

Some folks like to believe that this is a Christian nation, well apparently this form of Christianity only has nine commandments.

[Bigerik]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Tea Parties hoho, the original was kind of staged as well. The colonies asked the mother country for troops to put down the Indian raids on the western front. The mother country sent the troops and also sent the bill in the form of the tea tax, after all why should the citizens of England pick up the tab? The fact that the tax was also to help out the East India company, and General Cornwallis was an incompetent bumbler did not really affect the outcome.

It is much the same today, people say the government is incompetent, then for Heaven's sake don't vote for them. If you want to know what the problem is look in a mirror. Lou Dobbs favorite expression is that both parties are wings of the same bird. Then start a new party, some of you like Ron Paul (too simplistic for my taste) some people did vote for Ralph Nader and the Green party. The whole concept of a two party system seems entrenched in this country. Keep going down that road and you will never see any improvement. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.

What were the lyrics - "Freedom is just another name for nothing more to lose." Like it or not people need each other, it is called society, and no, screwing each other is not the way to achieve it.

Some folks like to believe that this is a Christian nation, well apparently this form of Christianity only has nine commandments.

Fine post, Rob.

[Charles]

I'm afraid that we're stuck with a two party system. The only way a third party will have an effect is if they're perceived as having a viable chance of winning, and not simply splitting the vote. Which will be difficult, as the media will do everything in it's power to discredit any threat to the status quo.

If you don't like things as they are, just consider that before long people will be calling these "the good ol' days".

Chas

[merrylander]

Suppose they gave another election and everyone stayed home?

[merrylander]

Health care Shmelth care, off to the dentist's today then stop for a flu shot on the way home. Not a bad deal $96.40 a month for Medicare and I get one flu shot a year. Even though I go five years between check-ups they won't pay for that.

[merrylander]

I believe what Congress will eventually come up with is something like the TV commercial where the guy is sitting there with a steak knife and the doc is giving instructions for an appendectomy over the phone. Poor guy say "Doc. don't you think you should be doing this?"

[Charles]

Originally Posted by merrylander

I believe what Congress will eventually come up with is something like the TV commercial where the guy is sitting there with a steak knife and the doc is giving instructions for an appendectomy over the phone. Poor guy say "Doc. don't you think you should be doing this?"

This is perhaps with wittiest post I believe that I've read here.

My hat's off to you, Sir.

Chas