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02-19-2018, 05:19 PM
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What if the Las Vegas shooter had done the Republican convention instead of a random country music street party-----?
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The nation's mean IQ would have gone up considerably. As for changing their views on guns, nothing would have occurred as was true at their softball game shootings in Alexandria, VA.
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02-19-2018, 06:01 PM
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Major GOP donor steps up effort to change his party's stance on guns https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...stance-n849416
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02-19-2018, 11:19 PM
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"Of course, that doesn't prevent the MSM from running boogeyman, fake news stories about how the NRA paying to teach Cruz to shoot." Whell
Saying that the NRA trained the shooter may be a little loaded but it's a fact.
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Of course it's "loaded", and slanted, and biased to present it that way which is exactly what a number of "news outlets" did, and it proves my point. Hard to have a serious discussion much less come up with potential realistic solutions when demagoguery and hyperbole are the order of the day. Same type of shit the Russians are accused of doing and we called that take news.
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02-19-2018, 11:31 PM
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None of these laws are news to anybody who knows anything about gun laws, yet Congressional Republicans won't even entertain debate on any of them. What ever happened to their promise to do something about bump stocks?
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From your Reuters article:
The conservative-majority court on Monday also declined to hear a challenge to Florida’s ban on openly carrying firearms.
That particular law didn't slow the shooter down.
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02-20-2018, 01:15 AM
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Hard to have a serious discussion much less come up with potential realistic solutions when demagoguery and hyperbole are the order of the day.
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Suggest you go read Donny’s tweets on the subject, or most any subject, moron. Once again, you prove just how damned idiotic you are. You have no point. You are pointless.
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02-20-2018, 05:21 AM
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Suggest you go read Donny’s tweets on the subject, or most any subject, moron. Once again, you prove just how damned idiotic you are. You have no point. You are pointless.
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And so another tool devolves the discussion further. Congratulations Chickie. You prove my point.
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02-20-2018, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
From your Reuters article:
The conservative-majority court on Monday also declined to hear a challenge to Florida’s ban on openly carrying firearms.
That particular law didn't slow the shooter down.
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I have no idea what your point is.
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02-20-2018, 07:16 AM
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I see nothing here that would be effective in preventing another mass shooting today, tomorrow, next week or next year.
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02-20-2018, 07:20 AM
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I have no idea what your point is.
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I'm not surprised. Here - let me ask the question again. From post 98:
No one can seriously suggest that passing gun control tomorrow, or last week, or last year, would have prevented the FL shooter from using shooting anyone.
So, what specifically is the solution that you're proposing?
In other words, what would prevent another shooting if someone were to attempt it tomorrow? If the answer is "Nothing, because we can't enact gun control legislation that quickly", then you're not thinking hard enough. There IS an answer to this question, by the way. And it wouldn't require enacting a single piece of legislation. Might require spending some money, though.
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02-20-2018, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
I'm not surprised. Here - let me ask the question again. From post 98:
No one can seriously suggest that passing gun control tomorrow, or last week, or last year, would have prevented the FL shooter from using shooting anyone.
So, what specifically is the solution that you're proposing?
In other words, what would prevent another shooting if someone were to attempt it tomorrow? If the answer is "Nothing, because we can't enact gun control legislation that quickly", then you're not thinking hard enough. There IS an answer to this question, by the way. And it wouldn't require enacting a single piece of legislation. Might require spending some money, though.
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I gave a proposal in post #99.
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