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Old 08-23-2013, 02:54 PM
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Once again I find myself pondering unfunded liabilities and how that relates to being unable to fund massive the R&D needed to leave oil behind, and how it relates to a capitalist market.

Btw Barney, I kinda agree, we've already proven how well we can mine heavy metals and scatter them across the surface, and managed to thoroughly pollute the massive amounts of seawater, apparently we'll do the same thing to groundwater.

Although to cheer things up, it don't matter how clean we are in the long run, I believe we've already passed population limits for sustainability. Yay.

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And yet you'll insist more people be born.......
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Old 08-23-2013, 02:55 PM
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Census estimate:

http://haysvillelibrary.files.wordpr...-1950-2050.jpg

Best case?

http://serc.carleton.edu/images/intr...dPopIIFig1.jpg

So it levels out at 7 bil give or take best case. And say our tech gets better, there's still billions coming closer to the developed worlds' standard of living.

It's not convenient Don, I dislike it strongly. Anything we do is a patch job. We may see a drop in standards of living in the balance of our lifetimes.

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Old 08-23-2013, 02:56 PM
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Rex, I don't think abortion is a good population control measure! Right now in China they're strapping down women and forcing abortions...

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Old 08-23-2013, 03:15 PM
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Rex, I don't think abortion is a good population control measure! Right now in China they're strapping down women and forcing abortions...

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They're strapping down wimmen in China???

"I'll tie her with a lasso, and lick her little...."

Sorry, kind of got carried away for a second,

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Old 08-23-2013, 03:20 PM
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:32 PM
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Rex, I don't think abortion is a good population control measure! Right now in China they're strapping down women and forcing abortions...

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I'd agree but why stop the ones that want it if you are concerned about population. It can only help.....right......?
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Old 08-23-2013, 04:34 PM
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Census estimate:

http://haysvillelibrary.files.wordpr...-1950-2050.jpg

Best case?

http://serc.carleton.edu/images/intr...dPopIIFig1.jpg

So it levels out at 7 bil give or take best case. And say our tech gets better, there's still billions coming closer to the developed worlds' standard of living.

It's not convenient Don, I dislike it strongly. Anything we do is a patch job. We may see a drop in standards of living in the balance of our lifetimes.

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Ever read this book?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thr...almer_Eldritch
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Old 08-26-2013, 11:10 AM
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No, but I'll check it out, thanks!

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Old 08-26-2013, 11:13 AM
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No, but I'll check it out, thanks!

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It's a good one. Predicts the laptop...also predicts will all live on hallucinogens do to the deterioration of our environment....maybe I should go cruise the Z71 around all day
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