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08-21-2013, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JJIII
Put this... "do oil companies pay taxes" (without the quotation marks) in Google search and tell us what comes up.
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Yeah, but that's your money. You and I cover their tax burden at the pump. Then congress sends them subsidies. Then oil executives retire with half billion dollar retirement packages.
Must be nice.
Dave
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08-21-2013, 05:59 PM
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AKA Sister Mary JJ
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Location: Upper East Tennessee
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Yeah, but that's your money. You and I cover their tax burden at the pump. Then congress sends them subsidies. Then oil executives retire with half billion dollar retirement packages.
Must be nice.
Dave
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You've got that right! There are no "corporate taxes". It all gets passed along to the consumer. Buzz words intended to divide and confuse.
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08-21-2013, 09:48 PM
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Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JJIII
You've got that right! There are no "corporate taxes". It all gets passed along to the consumer. Buzz words intended to divide and confuse.
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Soshulist!
Ain't it effin' amazing how some fall for the bullshit talking points furnished to them by the Koch brothers?
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08-22-2013, 09:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode
Soshulist!
Ain't it effin' amazing how some fall for the bullshit talking points furnished to them by the Koch brothers?
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Taxes aren't formulated into business expenses?
Chas
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08-22-2013, 09:14 PM
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Location: Willamette Valley
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Originally Posted by Charles
Taxes aren't formulated into business expenses?
Chas
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I'd guess so....
I'd also guess if you were a huge business more time may be spent formulating on how to get out of paying them......
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08-22-2013, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Taxes aren't formulated into business expenses?
Chas
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How about the true costs of pollution being figured into big oil's business model instead of leaving the taxpayers holding the bag always? Why the hell do they deserve all of the corporate welfare of subsidies and meanwhile we cut programs to the neediest amongst us?
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Last edited by bobabode; 08-22-2013 at 11:01 PM.
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08-23-2013, 06:18 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Derby City U.S.A.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode
How about the true costs of pollution being figured into big oil's business model instead of leaving the taxpayers holding the bag always? Why the hell do they deserve all of the corporate welfare of subsidies and meanwhile we cut programs to the neediest amongst us?
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Because they have the money. Those with money make the rules! It is a smart man who uses others money to make his. Not saying it is wrong just the way of the capitalist world.
Barney
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08-23-2013, 10:13 AM
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Possibly admin. Maybe ;)
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Land of the burning river
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Once again I find myself pondering unfunded liabilities and how that relates to being unable to fund massive the R&D needed to leave oil behind, and how it relates to a capitalist market.
Btw Barney, I kinda agree, we've already proven how well we can mine heavy metals and scatter them across the surface, and managed to thoroughly pollute the massive amounts of seawater, apparently we'll do the same thing to groundwater.
Although to cheer things up, it don't matter how clean we are in the long run, I believe we've already passed population limits for sustainability. Yay.
Pete
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08-23-2013, 02:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Once again I find myself pondering unfunded liabilities and how that relates to being unable to fund massive the R&D needed to leave oil behind, and how it relates to a capitalist market.
Btw Barney, I kinda agree, we've already proven how well we can mine heavy metals and scatter them across the surface, and managed to thoroughly pollute the massive amounts of seawater, apparently we'll do the same thing to groundwater.
Although to cheer things up, it don't matter how clean we are in the long run, I believe we've already passed population limits for sustainability. Yay.
Pete
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That's it in a nutshell...we got too many damned people.
Chas
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08-23-2013, 02:30 PM
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Jigsawed
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Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
Although to cheer things up, it don't matter how clean we are in the long run, I believe we've already passed population limits for sustainability. Yay.
Pete
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Wow!
How convenient! And the population claim is not even true.
Check: Russia, Canada, South America, Australia, Africa.
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