Volkswagen - What's got into you???

[icenine]

According to wiki only 17 states do bi-annual or annual smog checks.

So if you do not live in one ....nothing happens?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

According to wiki only 17 states do bi-annual or annual smog checks.

So if you do not live in one ....nothing happens?

I doubt the Federal government will stand by and allow impacted vehicles in 33 states to continue to operate as is.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I doubt the Federal government will stand by and allow impacted vehicles in 33 states to continue to operate as is.

How would they do that?
Wouldn't emissions testing be a state matter?

Would new legislation be required?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by icenine

How would they do that?
Wouldn't emissions testing be a state matter?

Would new legislation be required?

The Fed has (or can get) the VIN numbers and compel/negotiate a required fix with VW. The Fed could use coercive measures (e.g., withholding highway or other funds) to force noncompliant states to get on board with the fix. Where's there's a will, there's a way.

Reuters reports that a top economic analyst says that the impact of the VW problem on the German economy may exceed that of the Greek economic collapse.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RN27S20150923

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Fed has (or can get) the VIN numbers and compel/negotiate a required fix with VW. The Fed could use coercive measures (e.g., withholding highway or other funds) to force noncompliant states to get on board with the fix. Where's there's a will, there's a way.

Reuters reports that a top economic analyst says that the impact of the VW problem on the German economy may exceed that of the Greek economic collapse.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0RN27S20150923

So if the cure is worse than the disease what will happen?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

How would they do that?
Wouldn't emissions testing be a state matter?

Would new legislation be required?

Emissions and fuel consumption is a federal matter. In California, CARB has promulgated standards which are more stringent than the EPA standards. That's their right but, of course, it wouldn't be their right to impose lower standards and thereby find themselves out of compliance with the federal standards.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

How would they do that?
Wouldn't emissions testing be a state matter?

Would new legislation be required?

Ongoing testing of individual cars is a state matter but initial certification is federal. That means that, inherent in a state's testing regime, there is an assumption that the cars once met the federal standard. This is VW's problem. These TDs met the federal standard only by means of a subterfuge.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Ongoing testing of individual cars is a state matter but initial certification is federal. That means that, inherent in a state's testing regime, there is an assumption that the cars once met the federal standard. This is VW's problem. These TDs met the federal standard only by means of a subterfuge.

What about states not testing at all?

What if they do not want to test cars?

If you are not getting tested what happens?

[finnbow]

If anybody is interested, here's the October 2014 paper from the International Council on Clean Transportation pointing out the differences between dynamometer testing and on-road testing of modern diesel engines. This is the report that got the ball rolling on the VW debacle.

http://www.theicct.org/sites/default...s_20141013.pdf

At the point this was published, the ICCT didn't know of VW's subterfuge, but subsequent investigation by California and the EPA brought the problems to light.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If anybody is interested, here's the October 2014 paper from the International Council on Clean Transportation pointing out the differences between dynamometer testing and on-road testing of modern diesel engines. This is the report that got the ball rolling on the VW debacle.

http://www.theicct.org/sites/default...s_20141013.pdf

At the point this was published, the ICCT didn't know of VW's subterfuge, but subsequent investigation by California and the EPA brought the problems to light.

Thank you for the link, quite interesting and informative. As usual there is never a catch all technology for prevention or cleanup with emissions. Only long term solution is electric cars.