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Old 02-20-2019, 12:22 PM
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WaPo did nothing wrong, this lawsuit is a joke, and will be dismissed.
Well, this from WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...=.e9e778165d37

At 5 p.m. on Saturday, still unaware of the moments preceding the viral video, The Post published its first story on what would become a days-long national argument about racism, the media and masculinity. The headline: “‘It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on his encounter with MAGA-hat-wearing teens.” The article quoted Phillips, saying he felt threatened by the teens. It also included a statement from the Catholic Diocese of Covington condemning the actions of the students seen in the video, in which they appeared to mock and taunt the Native American activist.

In other words, WaPo had half a story, but they felt like they had a pretty good narrative about Maga-hat-wearing kids taunting a Native American. So, they ran with that and threw a bunch of high school kids under the bus, and threw a bunch of gas on the fire of a social media shit storm.

Of course, in this story covering their own slip-shod reporting, they attempt to support their own actions. It was the "Trump internet" that "pounced" on their shitty reporting, and how DARE they do that. But WaPo wouldn't bother framing their own actions to rush a narrative out the door with half the facts as "pouncing" to try and stay ahead of the Twitter-verse or the NYT.

In just a few hours on Saturday, the story took off with comet-like speed, propelled in equal measures by social-media outrage and by news reporting that drafted on its wake. In a now all-too-familiar process, people chose sides, and each side fed off the other, with mainstream news accounts pushing the whole slush pile along.

But WaPo would never accuse themselves of "choosing sides", even as they couldn't wait to frame the story as a bunch of MAGA hat wearing kids ganging up on a poor Native American guy.

And, of course, even knowing they published half the story, they still try to get in a dig at the teenage kid at the end of this story:

Amid speculation that the boys might get an invitation to visit the White House, Savannah Guthrie announced that Sandmann would be interviewed Wednesday on the “Today Show.” Guthrie posted a photo of the two of them on Twitter, sitting in front of the cameras. Sandmann was smiling.

What a load of crap, like the kid was just waiting around the streets of DC waiting for something like this to happen to him, and now he's got his 5 minutes of fame.

Case dismissed? Doubt it. Go to trial? Doubt it. WaPo paying out some settlement money? Absolutely.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:13 PM
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Well, this from WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...=.e9e778165d37

At 5 p.m. on Saturday, still unaware of the moments preceding the viral video, The Post published its first story on what would become a days-long national argument about racism, the media and masculinity. The headline: “‘It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on his encounter with MAGA-hat-wearing teens.” The article quoted Phillips, saying he felt threatened by the teens. It also included a statement from the Catholic Diocese of Covington condemning the actions of the students seen in the video, in which they appeared to mock and taunt the Native American activist.
This lawsuit is going nowhere. You have to be a certified MAGAMoron to believe otherwise. All the Post did was to accurately quote Phillips and the Catholic Diocese of Covington, followed up shortly thereafter with a thorough discussion of the genesis of this viral story (your link) stating “This was a complex encounter involving many people with sharply different perspectives — we reported what we could verify by talking to participants and witnesses and examining the available video. As is often the case, reporting over time allows a more complete picture to emerge.” There was no malicious intent or willful disregard for the truth in their reporting.

In short, this kid self-identified as a bigoted moron via his MAGA hat and is now concerned about defamation of his character??? Please. His stupid hat defamed him far worse than the good-faith reporting in the Post. Meanwhile, your Dear Leader has now lied to you over 8,000 times.
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Old 03-02-2019, 09:43 AM
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Well, this from WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...=.e9e778165d37

At 5 p.m. on Saturday, still unaware of the moments preceding the viral video, The Post published its first story on what would become a days-long national argument about racism, the media and masculinity. The headline: “‘It was getting ugly’: Native American drummer speaks on his encounter with MAGA-hat-wearing teens.” The article quoted Phillips, saying he felt threatened by the teens. It also included a statement from the Catholic Diocese of Covington condemning the actions of the students seen in the video, in which they appeared to mock and taunt the Native American activist.

In other words, WaPo had half a story, but they felt like they had a pretty good narrative about Maga-hat-wearing kids taunting a Native American. So, they ran with that and threw a bunch of high school kids under the bus, and threw a bunch of gas on the fire of a social media shit storm.

Of course, in this story covering their own slip-shod reporting, they attempt to support their own actions. It was the "Trump internet" that "pounced" on their shitty reporting, and how DARE they do that. But WaPo wouldn't bother framing their own actions to rush a narrative out the door with half the facts as "pouncing" to try and stay ahead of the Twitter-verse or the NYT.

In just a few hours on Saturday, the story took off with comet-like speed, propelled in equal measures by social-media outrage and by news reporting that drafted on its wake. In a now all-too-familiar process, people chose sides, and each side fed off the other, with mainstream news accounts pushing the whole slush pile along.

But WaPo would never accuse themselves of "choosing sides", even as they couldn't wait to frame the story as a bunch of MAGA hat wearing kids ganging up on a poor Native American guy.

And, of course, even knowing they published half the story, they still try to get in a dig at the teenage kid at the end of this story:

Amid speculation that the boys might get an invitation to visit the White House, Savannah Guthrie announced that Sandmann would be interviewed Wednesday on the “Today Show.” Guthrie posted a photo of the two of them on Twitter, sitting in front of the cameras. Sandmann was smiling.

What a load of crap, like the kid was just waiting around the streets of DC waiting for something like this to happen to him, and now he's got his 5 minutes of fame.

Case dismissed? Doubt it. Go to trial? Doubt it. WaPo paying out some settlement money? Absolutely.
For those of you predicting that this lawsuit will "go nowhere", or that its "a joke and will be dismissed", your favorite news rag took an apparent defensive step yesterday...only a month and a half after the original story was published and the damage was already done.

Would this - decidedly minimal - editors note have been published without the specter of a $250MM lawsuit? Doubtful.
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There are times I think I've overblown my intense reaction to the pretender in chief, then I hear him making some ridiculous statement(s) and I'm reminded that he really is a vindictive narcissistic idiot who cannot be trusted with the responsibility he was carelessly given by a statistical minority of his victims.
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If Stephen Miller doesn't rise to your level of distaste, there's something amiss in your character. Sorry.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:18 AM
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Gee, I wonder whose reporting ultra-right wing Supreme Court justice Clarence Thomas used to justify the unanimous ruling just handed down? Surely not the “lefty” WaPo and New Yorker, right, Whell? They can’t be trusted!

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Justice Clarence Thomas wrote in a recent opinion that civil forfeitures have “become widespread and highly profitable.”

“This system — where police can seize property with limited judicial oversight and retain it for their own use — has led to egregious and well-chronicled abuses,” Thomas wrote, referring to reporting by The Washington Post and the New Yorker.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:53 PM
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This, from a moron who defends Faux "News", lol. You don't have a leg to stand on.
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Old 02-20-2019, 02:32 PM
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The New York Times reporting is false. They are a true ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!

5:49 AM - 20 Feb 2019

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Sigh. Whell, do you actually believe this fascist ranting by your dear leader?! You're such a pathetic loser.
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Fox’s Judge Napolitano: Trump’s Call to Whitaker Sure Looks Like ‘Attempted Obstruction’ of Justice
The judge said Trump’s reported call to Whitaker was ‘an effort to use the levers of power... for a corrupt purpose to deflect an investigation into himself or his allies.’

https://www.thedailybeast.com/foxs-j...ion-of-justice

More from Faux. Does this mean they're finally realizing he's going down? Who will they turn their corrupt, biased "reporting" (undying loyalty) to now? Pence?

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The two Fox News colleagues ended their discussion by heaping praise upon the Times reporters behind the story, with Napolitano calling the report “dynamite” and “well-documented.”
Wow, that must really chap your hide, eh Whell? Lol.
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Old 02-20-2019, 03:22 PM
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This lawsuit is going nowhere. You have to be a certified MAGAMoron to believe otherwise. All the Post did was to accurately quote Phillips and the Catholic Diocese of Covington, followed up shortly thereafter with a thorough discussion of the genesis of this viral story (your link) stating “This was a complex encounter involving many people with sharply different perspectives — we reported what we could verify by talking to participants and witnesses and examining the available video. As is often the case, reporting over time allows a more complete picture to emerge.” There was no malicious intent or willful disregard for the truth in their reporting.

In short, this kid self-identified as a bigoted moron via his MAGA hat and is now concerned about defamation of his character??? Please. His stupid hat defamed him far worse than the good-faith reporting in the Post. Meanwhile, your Dear Leader has now lied to you over 8,000 times.
Sure, they posted the statement about a "complex encounter" after they got the facts wrong...and of course go on to blame the reaction that their crappy reporting generated on the Trump Twitter-verse who were ready to "pounce".

Washington Post Policies and Standards:

"The newspaper shall not be the ally of any special interest, but shall be fair and free and wholesome in its outlook on public affairs and public men.

No story is fair if it consciously or unconsciously misleads or even deceives the reader. Fairness includes honesty–leveling with the reader.

No story is fair if it covers individuals or organizations that have not been given the opportunity to address assertions or claims about them made by others. Fairness includes diligently seeking comment and taking that comment genuinely into account."

The original WaPo story didn't attempt to get a statement from the "teenage boy" with the "relentless smirk" who was part of a "throng of mostly white teenage boys". Sorry, just that characterization of the individuals involved was inflammatory, and it was MEANT to be inflammatory. It was meant to to be inflammatory because, as the headline of the WaPo story loudly and proudly stated, the Native American guy was being "accosted" by "boys in MAGA caps"

There was no "fairness" there. No attempt at context. Every attempt to draw conclusions before facts were known using words that were meant to characterize rather than report facts.

What's interesting is your description above that states clearly your opinion that anyone, including some teenage kids who deigns to wear a MAGA hat - and didn't do a damn thing wrong on the day in question - self identify as "bigoted morons." I dare say the writers at WaPo apparently think just like you, and it comes out loud and clear in their work.

Figures...
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