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12-19-2012, 07:11 AM
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Hallelujah!
More evidence that the insanity reaches beyond the Westboro freaks. A quick perusal of quotes from the likes of Fallwell and Robertson will reveal that such sickminded hogwash is not restricted to the acolytes of Brother Phelps, my friends. It is far more widespread then some of you may think. (You see, the good and pious folks from Kansas are primarily hated for the high profile manor in which they openly berate---"The Troops", which always boosts ones popularity like a fart in a crowded elevator. Remove that and what you have, unfortunately, is much closer to mainstream Jesus-Nazi rantings than you may realize.)
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12-19-2012, 07:34 AM
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Have not stepped inside a church for more than twenty years and am not likelly to do so in future. If you seek God that is the last place to look.
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12-19-2012, 09:04 AM
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I will say that I wouldn't point a finger specifically at Tennessee. JJ is right, nuts are everywhere.
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12-19-2012, 11:24 AM
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I suppose it becomes a question of how broadly one defines community. In the cult situations, there was immense influence within a small, closely knit community. The hate mongers like the one in the OP have a broader audience, but there are also more countervailing voices in the broader community. All of us have the obligation to critically listen to what is being preached and determine whether it jibes with our sense of morality/spirituality/reason.
I know that there is room to suspect that the Methodist faith that I practice has its share of hocus pocus, but the theology also includes reason as one of its central tenets. Fortunately, reasonable folks believe that we are all allowed to practice, or not, our own faith. Unfortunately, there are also those who wish to suppress faith practices that are not part of the Judeo-Christian tradition (i.e. vandalism to deter the construction of Mosques). I still have faith that reason will prevail (and yes, I recognize the irony in that last sentence).
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12-19-2012, 11:52 AM
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My mom was from Tennesee. She was pretty nice to me
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12-19-2012, 12:09 PM
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Mainstream religions are outwardly-directed. They exist to proselytize and spread their influence as broadly and deeply as they can.
Cults are inwardly directed, striving to isolate their adherents from outside influences. That's why cults tend to end up in communities closed off from the outside world.
Jim Jones' first step was to leave the country. When that failed and Congressman Ryan payed him a visit he knew that there was no way to keep the world out any more so he killed Ryan, then, along with his group, himself.
David Koresh isolated himself and his followers in an armed fortress. Like Jones, when the "outsiders" came and he knew that his power was soon to be at an end, he ordered the death of his followers.
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12-19-2012, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreas
Mainstream religions are outwardly-directed. They exist to proselytize and spread their influence as broadly and deeply as they can.
Cults are inwardly directed, striving to isolate their adherents from outside influences. That's why cults tend to end up in communities closed off from the outside world.
Jim Jones' first step was to leave the country. When that failed and Congressman Ryan payed him a visit he knew that there was no way to keep the world out any more so he killed Ryan, then, along with his group, himself.
David Koresh isolated himself and his followers in an armed fortress. Like Jones, when the "outsiders" came and he knew that his power was soon to be at an end, he ordered the death of his followers.
John
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I'm thinking this is why Republicans hate it when you compare America to other countries. As travel abroad continues to rise, that cat will become impossible to keep in the bag.
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12-19-2012, 12:24 PM
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In the Bible God stresses wisdom throughout.
From a Christian POV, of course a sinful society will have more than its' share of troubles. But there's loving and compassionate way, and a hateful and hurtful way of explaining these things.
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13.htm
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12-19-2012, 03:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
In the Bible God stresses wisdom throughout.
From a Christian POV, of course a sinful society will have more than its' share of troubles. But there's loving and compassionate way, and a hateful and hurtful way of explaining these things.
"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal."
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/13.htm
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If you believe "God" wrote the Bible. I believe it was written by men, establishing religion based forms of government.
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12-20-2012, 09:03 AM
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Like the US?
Pete
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