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10-29-2011, 06:54 AM
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U.S. Border Patrol Agent Jesus Diaz...
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/12474...ylist_id=89637
This interview with the wife of Jesus Diaz is stunning. I am left to wonder what exactly Barrack Obama is justice "tsar" Eric Holder are doing...
According to the interview, Agent Diaz was exonerated of all wrong doing by the Inspector General and others. Yet, a year later, at the urging of the Republic of Mexico, Eric Holder disregards the findings of the oversight board and brings new charges against Diaz and and a very liberal judge sentences Diaz to two years in federal prison for doing his job.
If this proves to be factual: Holder must be removed and face legal prosecution and Obama should be impeached. Friends, if this proves to be factual - Obama and Holder have gone too far! Once again, not a peep from most of the mainstream media.
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10-29-2011, 09:40 AM
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Don't get worked up by the way that Faux portrays anything. I'd go to the trouble to find out what really happened before getting your knickers in a twist.
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10-29-2011, 10:02 AM
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Ok Finn, try this. Even the Border Patrol agent's union had a problem with this conviction.
http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/20...osecution-of-/
Looks more like a political prosecution to me, what with Mexico's interest in the case.
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10-29-2011, 10:50 AM
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You forgot to mention that the union is supporting Mr. Diaz. I wonder how much it pained to WT to report favorably about anything to do with a public employee union.
Here is another perspective on the case. Apparently, the case was based on the testimony of other border patrol agents who observed the treatment the prisoner received.
Because the folks who cross the southern border are the favorite whipping boy of the right wing right now, it's easy to make a hero out of anyone taking them on. I notice that your article and others seek to minimize the treatment meted out to the prisoner, by saying that Diaz "pulled on his handcuffs." That a bit of a whitewash of conduct that involved putting the knee in the back of an individual who was subdued and then forcing his arms to move in a direction opposite of that his joints would tolerate. Try putting you arms behind you back and have someone push them over your head. You might not say that they were just pulling on your arms.
Illegally crossing a border does not deprive a person of his humanity. No crime deprives a person of his humanity. I don't think any of us want to condone torture by law enforcement officials, no matter what beat they work.
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10-29-2011, 11:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krazygrrl
[url] Obama should be impeached.
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Some yearning!
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10-29-2011, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
Because the folks who cross the southern border are the favorite whipping boy of the right wing right now, it's easy to make a hero out of anyone taking them on. I notice that your article and others seek to minimize the treatment meted out to the prisoner, by saying that Diaz "pulled on his handcuffs." That a bit of a whitewash of conduct that involved putting the knee in the back of an individual who was subdued and then forcing his arms to move in a direction opposite of that his joints would tolerate. Try putting you arms behind you back and have someone push them over your head. You might not say that they were just pulling on your arms.
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I'll try it sometime. Maybe the next time I cross the border with 150 lbs of grass and encounter a border patrol officer. I'll become uncooperative, resist arrest, and let thing roll from there.
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10-29-2011, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
I'll try it sometime. Maybe the next time I cross the border with 150 lbs of grass and encounter a border patrol officer. I'll become uncooperative, resist arrest, and let thing roll from there.
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The jury apparently believed the testimony from the other officers that Diaz had engaged in conduct that amounted to torture.
"By their accounts, Agent Jesus Enrique Diaz Jr., a husband and father with seven years on the job, tortured a 16-year-old drug smuggler two years ago by wrenching his handcuffed arms upward as he pressed a knee into his back. In an effort to make the boy reveal where he had hidden marijuana bundles near the Rio Grande, Diaz also kicked him and dropped him face-first on the ground, agents testified.
No one stopped the alleged assault as the 110-pound juvenile screamed, but some agents talked afterward about the "disgust" they felt and reported it. "I knew that what he was doing was wrong," Agent Gabriel Lerma testified."
Are you suggesting that the type of misconduct in which the prisoner had engaged justified torture? That's certainly not my idea of a just society.
Regards,
D-Ray
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10-29-2011, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by d-ray657
The jury apparently believed the testimony from the other officers that Diaz had engaged in conduct that amounted to torture.
"By their accounts, Agent Jesus Enrique Diaz Jr., a husband and father with seven years on the job, tortured a 16-year-old drug smuggler two years ago by wrenching his handcuffed arms upward as he pressed a knee into his back. In an effort to make the boy reveal where he had hidden marijuana bundles near the Rio Grande, Diaz also kicked him and dropped him face-first on the ground, agents testified.
No one stopped the alleged assault as the 110-pound juvenile screamed, but some agents talked afterward about the "disgust" they felt and reported it. "I knew that what he was doing was wrong," Agent Gabriel Lerma testified."
Are you suggesting that the type of misconduct in which the prisoner had engaged justified torture? That's certainly not my idea of a just society.
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D-Ray
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I wasn't there, so I'm passing judgment.
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10-29-2011, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles
I wasn't there, so I'm passing judgment.
Chas
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I'm assuming that the above was not a Freudian slip.
Regards,
D=Ray
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10-29-2011, 05:59 PM
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What say we let the border agent go until Holder prosecutes the black panthers for voter intimidation. Of course the evidence on that was only high def color tape.
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