The Rise and Fall of Obamacare

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

The individual mandate is proof that Obamacare sucks.

If it didn't suck you wouldn't need a mandate.

Is there a mandate that you have to sign up for Medicare?

Hell no.

Do the Canadians or the Brits need a mandate, or any of the other countries that have single payer need a mandate?

A false equivalency here. Those who are medicare eligible are of an age where they are well aware of their mortality and the need for health care coverage. The young people to whom the mandate is likely to apply are, in their minds, invincible, and in no need of medical care.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by nailer

I also drive a fine German automobile, Potter.

Does it have a cushy ride?

[MrPots]

It's a Volkswagen Beetle.....

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

A false equivalency here. Those who are medicare eligible are of an age where they are well aware of their mortality and the need for health care coverage. The young people to whom the mandate is likely to apply are, in their minds, invincible, and in no need of medical care.

That might be enough of a factor to reduce the sign up rate from 99% to 95%.

But the truth is Medicare is an awesome deal even at $134 a month which is the part B premium for 2017. The overwhelming majority would jump at that chance.

That's because 75% of the premium is taxpayer funded. If it were up to me it would be 100% funded. We could easily do that if we quit fighting foreign wars that we have no goddamned business starting or getting into.

[Denier]

Originally Posted by icenine

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...205-story.html

This is the reality. The OP wants us to believe there is some revolution in the wings heralding single payer after an apocalypse. The OP just doesn't know what the reality is.

Obama sort of made it impossible to repeal the law and if it was repealed a lot of Chumpsters will be up shit creek since they rely on the subsidies or the actual Medicaid expansion themselves.

Most of the hatred of the law is by people who hate to pay for health coverage and deep down are uncomfortable with the idea that a black President did it. There are a lot of people that don't realize 76% of the nation wants to keep it. In other words opposition to the ACA is being driven by people who think Obama was born in Africa. It is more identity politics than anything else. Right now we are at the lowest rate of uninsured ever.

I had to raise this thread from fake news to real news.


Sadly people in red states get cancer like everyone else. That is probably what is going to save Obamacare. Hopefully. You can't tell with someone like Trump at the helm.
He believes in conspiracy theories....

You are a liar. Obummer is half white.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Denier

You are a liar. Obummer is half white.

You are a silly man with a big mouth.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Denier

You are a liar. Obummer is half white.

No.

You just can't handle the truth. If you want your values reinforced head back over to Breitbart.com.

[donquixote99]

Frightbarf is way too mainstream for him. There was a site he shared back on the chelsea thread. I certainly don't recommend anyone visit it. Big featured thread is something about 'getting ready for the race war.'

[nailer]

Originally Posted by MrPots

It's a Volkswagen Beetle.....

Being a re-skinned Rabbit, the resurrected Bug is indeed a fine automobile. Although I wouldn't describe the ride as cushy.

[icenine]

Perhaps an individual mandate for car repair insurance should be a requirement for all German automobile owners.