It's Official, Russians Corrupted The Election

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In the meantime:

Tony Podesta resigns from lobbying firm amid Robert Mueller investigation

Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Podesta announced his decision during a firm-wide meeting Monday morning and is alerting clients of his impending departure.

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Funny but scary.

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Originally Posted by whell

Right, so what does that have to do with Trump campaign collusion with the Russians? Nothing?

During the campaign, he was actively laundering Russian/Ukrainian money while lobbying on their behalf and working to (and succeeding) in changing the GOP platform to benefit Russia. As for collusion, the affidavit supporting the Papadapoulos guilty plea shows collusion and the fact that he was coordinating said collusion with campaign higher-ups.

Are you still clinging to the notion that Trump and his minions are honest and ethical?

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Originally Posted by whell

In the meantime:

Tony Podesta resigns from lobbying firm amid Robert Mueller investigation

Democratic power lobbyist Tony Podesta, founder of the Podesta Group, is stepping down from the firm that bears his name after coming under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Podesta announced his decision during a firm-wide meeting Monday morning and is alerting clients of his impending departure.

From your link.

The investigation into Podesta and his firm grew out of investigators’ examination of Manafort’s finances. Manafort organized a PR campaign on behalf of a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. Podesta Group was one of several firms that were paid to do work on the PR campaign to promote Ukraine in the U.S.

Key person here is Manafort and is expected that other lobbyists will be caught up in his web. Democrat or Republicans, all lobbyists are basically whores who will work for anyone as long as they are paid.

Stick with Hillary and Uranium One, that could be a winning combination.

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"In truth and in fact, however, and as set forth above, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for the first time on or about March 14, 2016, after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had already learned he would be a foreign policy advisor for the Campaign; the Professor showed interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS only after learning of his role on the Campaign; and the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the Russians possessing" dirt" on then-candidate Clinton in late April 2016, more than a month after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had joined the Campaign."

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Originally Posted by finnbow

During the campaign, he was actively laundering Russian/Ukrainian money while lobbying on their behalf and working to (and succeeding) in changing the GOP platform to benefit Russia. As for collusion, the affidavit supporting the Papadapoulos guilty plea shows collusion and the fact that he was coordinating said collusion with campaign higher-ups.

Are you still clinging to the notion that Trump and his minions are honest and ethical?

As such Mueller has a problem. As director of the FBI he was quiet when Rosatom deals went through. Deals which benefited Russia. Egregious especially, since the deals involved Uranium.

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Originally Posted by Dondilion

As such Mueller has a problem. As director of the FBI he was quiet when Rosatom deals went through. Deals which benefited Russia. Egregious especially, since the deals involved Uranium.

Uranium that CANNOT BE EXPORTED TO RUSSIA. This story has been dead for a long, long time. It’s being brought back only by the fake news outlets as a diversion.

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The first thing to acknowledge is that the indictment of Paul Manafort doesn’t prove collusion by President Trump with Russia to undermine American democracy. But the second thing to say is: It may get us closer.

Manafort may now be facing the prospect of years in prison, and the indictment seems meticulously rooted in facts and evidence that Robert Mueller accumulated; if I were Manafort, I’d be very worried. Presumably that was the intention, and one purpose of the indictment is to gain leverage to persuade Manafort to testify against others in exchange for leniency.

If Manafort pursues his self-interest, my bet is that he’ll sing. That then can become a cascade: He testifies against others, who in turn are pressured to testify against still others. And all this makes it more difficult to protect the man at the center if indeed he has violated the law.

Much the same goes for Manafort’s aide, Rick Gates, who was also indicted, and for George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, who pled guilty to lying to the F.B.I. about a Russian contact. The Papadopoulos revelation is particularly interesting because it goes precisely to the issue of collusion, and it’s not just an allegation—it’s a guilty plea.

Of course the real question is the title of this article.

Will Manafort Sing?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/o...ol-left-region

I for one am betting he will sing eventually unless he has a thing for Bernie Madoff. There is still Flynn out there who had asked for immunity from the very beginning of this investigation.

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Originally Posted by finnbow

During the campaign, he was actively laundering Russian/Ukrainian money while lobbying on their behalf and working to (and succeeding) in changing the GOP platform to benefit Russia. As for collusion, the affidavit supporting the Papadapoulos guilty plea shows collusion and the fact that he was coordinating said collusion with campaign higher-ups.

Are you still clinging to the notion that Trump and his minions are honest and ethical?

Lotsa speculation above. Not much more.

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Originally Posted by whell

Lotsa speculation above. Not much more.

There wasn't a word of speculation in what I wrote.