GOP's AHCA aka Trump-RyanCare

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Since we're tossing around op-eds, Mike. Here's one from a guy who knows his way around an abacus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Krugman

'A Bill So Bad It’s Awesome' by Dr. Paul Krugman...

Ouch. Dude nailed it. Whell is bound to chime in with an article from some Ayn-Rand-infatuated 30 year old twerp who's never been laid (think Stephen Miller) to refute the Nobel Prize winning economist.

[Oerets]

Once again I was reminded today just why universal healthcare, single payer or whatever it takes we need to get a better system enacted and soon.

We have all heard stories about those who waited to long to see a Doctor then find out if only. Last week it was a Sister in Law and COPD today my Sister and Colon Cancer diagnosis.

Both had to supply their own insurance and would ether do without or get high deductible. Never talked to much about insurance because of their political views being way to the right of mine. But know they both did without for many years because of expense.

Truthfully if this was the "GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD" this could never happen.

Barney

[Rajoo]

Dominance will be my guess. Trump wanted to be treated like a King.

[Rajoo]

The WH does not want this 'Best Healthcare Plan' to be called Trumpcare.

[donquixote99]

"America has become a storefront for a corporate mob." --some anonymous person back before 1999.

Voices have been raised every step of the way. But they most don't get on the talk shows....

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

"America has become a storefront for a corporate mob." --some anonymous person back before 1999.

Voices have been raised every step of the way. But they most don't get on the talk shows....

The media is corporate. DotCom and a bunch of other Coms are corporate. The Federal bureaucracy is corporate as is our political system. This country has always been about the right to own property and live your life as you please within the law (to varying degrees). To be free is to be greedy. In his way Tocqueville observed this. He also noted the following:

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

And,

In other words, a democratic government is the only one in which those who vote for a tax can escape the obligation to pay it.

[finnbow]

The GOP is in a lose-lose situation. Pass a bill that covers fewer people, costs more and gives huge tax breaks to the rich and their rube base will freak out. Don't pass anything and their rube base will also freak out. Just as it should be.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The GOP is in a lose-lose situation. Pass a bill that covers fewer people, costs more and gives huge tax breaks to the rich and their rube base will freak out. Don't pass anything and their rube base will also freak out. Just as it should be.

Probably not. You're forgetting that they have been brainwashed to believe that rich people are oppressed and it's poor people and the working class that are oppressing them. They've also been led to believe that if you lack for something, it's never anyones "fault" but yours. The GOP can pass a bill just as you described and their tightly mind controlled base will applaud it.

Imagine the stupidity of someone who actively supports something that most greatly benefits people who don't need the money at all, people whose income is already hundreds or thousands of times larger than their own. And they will support it at the expense of the least fortunate among us.

That's your average Republican stooge.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Probably not. You're forgetting that they have been brainwashed to believe that rich people are oppressed and it's poor people and the working class that are oppressing them. They've also been led to believe that if you lack for something, it's never anyones "fault" but yours. The GOP can pass a bill just as you described and their tightly mind controlled base will applaud it.

Imagine the stupidity of someone who actively supports something that most greatly benefits people who don't need the money at all, people whose income is already hundreds or thousands of times larger than their own. And they will support it at the expense of the least fortunate among us.

That's your average Republican stooge.

What you say is true for those with employer-provided health insurance. They could care less about those on individual plans - they got theirs. Poor folks on expanded Medicare will catch on pretty quickly that they've been hosed though. OTOH, admitting to yourself that you enthusiastically supported the biggest grifter in American political history will be difficult.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The GOP is in a lose-lose situation. Pass a bill that covers fewer people, costs more and gives huge tax breaks to the rich and their rube base will freak out. Don't pass anything and their rube base will also freak out. Just as it should be.

The lose - lose situation would be to do nothing, and let the mess that is the ACA continue to wreak havoc with the individual insurance market.