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Old 06-11-2011, 03:53 PM
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Kinda like..... bull$hit?
Sarcasm was lost in translation.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:51 PM
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Purely cost of labor, the crap about burdensome regulations is exactly that - crap.
I don't think it is purely cost of labor. I think the "crap" has a lot to do with it.

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Purely cost of labor, the crap about burdensome regulations is exactly that - crap.
Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:14 AM
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Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.
to bad we can't trust private industry to put society first, they should pay an extra tax to pay for all the regulations we have to impose to keep them from victimizing society.
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Read this - it will link you to a WSJ article - and tell me if you still think that concerns about burdensome regulations are still overblown.

http://houstonnews.gulfcoastrising.c...le-revolution/

And this is just one slice of the pie of regulations that industry faces. I could write a treatise on the stupidity of some of the things that are regulated / enforced by the Dept of Labor, and how it impacts employers.
For the sake of your three children I would avoid most plastic containers in fact Canada has banned plastic baby bottles because of the chemicals they release. As noone noted many regulations have come about simply because industry does not always do the necessary research into the long term effects of the chemicals they use.

Sure WallyWorld and others are have stuff made in Chiina because of cheap labor and little or no regulation. Well I sure would not use baby formula from China,, or any other foodstuff. If they are willing to poison their own children I do not imagine they care much about ours. The FDA budget has been cut so badly that another e-coli outbreak is due any day.
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You know JJ there was a day when American businessmen had some cojones, now they are just a bunch of wusses. They sit around and moan all day while foreign companies come here and eat their lunch. The only reason they manage to survive is by heading for China and India for slave labor. Meanwhile an Indian call center moved over here because the owner said Indian wages were too high. Shows you the direction in which we are heading. Pretty soon we will have WallyWorld move back because we will be dirt cheap employees.
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:55 PM
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You know JJ there was a day when American businessmen had some cojones, now they are just a bunch of wusses. They sit around and moan all day while foreign companies come here and eat their lunch. The only reason they manage to survive is by heading for China and India for slave labor. Meanwhile an Indian call center moved over here because the owner said Indian wages were too high. Shows you the direction in which we are heading. Pretty soon we will have WallyWorld move back because we will be dirt cheap employees.
You may be onto something here. I hate to admit it though.
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You know JJ there was a day when American businessmen had some cojones, now they are just a bunch of wusses. They sit around and moan all day while foreign companies come here and eat their lunch. The only reason they manage to survive is by heading for China and India for slave labor. Meanwhile an Indian call center moved over here because the owner said Indian wages were too high. Shows you the direction in which we are heading. Pretty soon we will have WallyWorld move back because we will be dirt cheap employees.
Precisely.

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I love how management now assembles teams of employees then tell US to tell them how to run the plant. They just simply demand results instead of offering any helpful input, followed by, "No, we can't afford that.", "No, we can't do that either, 'cuz then we'd have to pay someone overtime.", "Hmmmm, that's an excellent idea.....but we're not going to do it, it costs too much.", "No, that won't happen either because engineering doesn't have the time.", "Good suggestion, I'll get back with you on that.....(Then you never hear from the lounge lizard again.)", "Those things are expensive, can't we just cobble together some junk from the boneyard and make it work?"

And then, when it inevitably fails------"Looks like we're gonna have to cut labor costs."

This is our future.

They are not innovators, they are professional lounge lizards, naysayers and shirkers of responsibility. "My business went under because the whole world is out to destroy me. Damn government....and workers.....and environmentalist.....and lesbians....a,a,a,a,and crab fisherman, YEAH THEM TOO!, ...they all hate me. That why my business failed." Industry will continue to slide down the commode, because industry bosses are a bunch of lazy, cheapskate republicans who think you can make astonishing progress without spending any money and forcing, or shaming someone else into doing all of their work for them.

"Oh, the plant is running like shit? Well, what are you gonna do about it guys? We can't have that. Let me know what you come up with. Call my cell, I'll be out at home, watching the guys build my pool."

Our competitors continue to gain ground, and will continue to do so until these clowns snap out of it. Germany for example, is one of, if not the most highly regulated countries in the world. My plant is filling up with German made machinery because it's the best and Italians don't like to waste time struggling with cheap American made junk. They've told us so.

Oh, I know. I just violated the sacred "American Exceptionalism" the sanctimonious right likes to blather on about. Sorry, but I don't care. Their way of doing things isn't going to work anymore. The world has moved on without them as they daydreamed about The Gipper and Howdy Doody.

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We need less "entrepeneurs" spending their days bullshitting around on internet boards during work hours..........................like this one, for example.

Where are you guys, when your on here, half the time?

Answer that one.

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