Political Forums  

Go Back   Political Forums > Politics

We appreciate your help

in keeping this site going.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 07-17-2014, 07:31 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is online now
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,857
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion View Post
So why shoot rockets, if you are in such a weak position.
Because Hamas wants to show the people of Gaza their willingness to fight Israel, hence asserting their relevance after being throttled by Egypt's new leadership and Syria no longer being able to provide financing.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.

Last edited by finnbow; 07-17-2014 at 07:33 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:14 PM
Dondilion's Avatar
Dondilion Dondilion is offline
Jigsawed
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,557
There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:31 PM
Pio1980's Avatar
Pio1980 Pio1980 is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NE Bamastan
Posts: 11,049
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion View Post
There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.
Sounds interesting if they can get it past the hard heads on both sides, there's nothing in the status quo for the folks caught between them.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
__________________
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:32 PM
bobabode's Avatar
bobabode bobabode is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 37,188
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion View Post
There is a time for realism. The FARC/left wing rebels have been fighting in Colombia for decades and have recently realized the game is up. FARC agreed to sue for peace when it discern that it had become irrelevant and the Colombian people had moved past its methods and followers..

It is time for Hamas to be bold...recognize Israel right to exist and embarrass
the Israelis.

It is time to try something new.
Forgive me but . I get what you're saying about tactics but Colombia's troubles have always been about politics ala the Marxists vs. the Oligarchs with the 'helpful bloody hand' of Uncle Sam.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:42 PM
finnbow's Avatar
finnbow finnbow is online now
Reformed Know-Nothing
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MoCo, MD
Posts: 25,857
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pio1980 View Post
Sounds interesting if they can get it past the hard heads on both sides, there's nothing in the status quo for the folks caught between them.

Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk
Israel is actually quite happy with the status quo. In fact, Tel Aviv is pretty much oblivious to what's going on in Gaza (or the West Bank). They have absolute military superiority and continue to build settlements. After Kerry's inability to get the sides together, one could easily enough say that we were the only ones who actually wanted a change to the status quo.
__________________
As long as the roots are not severed, all will be well in the garden.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-17-2014, 09:54 PM
bobabode's Avatar
bobabode bobabode is offline
Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
Posts: 37,188
Kerry should've known better than to trust that Romney lovin' prick Bebe Netanyahu.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-17-2014, 10:05 PM
Tom Joad's Avatar
Tom Joad Tom Joad is offline
Persona non grata
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 12,654
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
Israel has invaded Gaza, per news ticker beneath British Open re-run.

I have no data...
I don't like either one of them.

They both give me a case of the ass.
__________________
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-17-2014, 10:29 PM
Ike Bana Ike Bana is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 8,310
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion View Post
So why shoot rockets, if you are in such a weak position.
Hamas leadership has nothing else going for it that will keep them in power. It's not like Hamas is doing anything to improve the quality of life for the people who have put them in power. If living in Gaza is as bad we're told it is...it's not because of Israel. It's because of worthless Palestinian leadership. So they fire a few rockets and lob a few mortar rounds into a few Israeli neighborhoods and suddenly Hamas are heroes, everybody loves them, and everybody goes happily back home to their miserable existence with smiles on their faces.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-17-2014, 10:37 PM
Dondilion's Avatar
Dondilion Dondilion is offline
Jigsawed
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 10,557
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobabode View Post
Forgive me but . I get what you're saying about tactics but Colombia's troubles have always been about politics ala the Marxists vs. the Oligarchs with the 'helpful bloody hand' of Uncle Sam.
The Marxists have realized that they were beaten and it was time to get the best deal. Chavez and Castro encouraged them in that direction.

Hamas has no hope of physically defeating the Jewish state, unless it acquires a nuclear suit case.

Only thing Hamas is achieving is increase punishment of its people. Israel and its universal connections are too powerful. Time to sue for peace.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-18-2014, 01:09 AM
donquixote99's Avatar
donquixote99 donquixote99 is offline
Ready
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 19,122
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion View Post
Hamas has no hope of physically defeating the Jewish state, unless it acquires a nuclear suit case.
Not then either. You keep confusing hurting an enemy with defeating them. Not the same thing at all.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.