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Old 08-30-2012, 06:40 PM
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What justification is there for government enforced moral code?
It is a simple manifestation of our sense of morality that gets embodied in the laws we write. For example in our traditional mode of capitalism we have a bankruptcy system that provides for a systematic unwinding of an insolvent estate. That system has roots in the Bible. We transferred our moral code into the law of the land.

By comparison the laissez-faire capitalists have been nibbling away at individual bankruptcy law and sticking debtors between a rock and a hard place. At the same time they have left the old Biblical based code intact for corporations.

See the bankruptcy act of 2005.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:49 PM
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What justification is there for government enforced moral code? I'm not certain that the social contract is sufficient to overide the sanctity of individual choice without sufficient harm being caused to that individual. Can't government always justify its actions by such appeals to a moral code and who or what determines what moral code ought be enforced?
Oh, yes. we can't violate the "sanctity" of individual choice, even if that individual is a one way pig, apparently. See, expecting the "job creaters" to create jobs that are worth a shit might offend them....damage their delicate emotional state, their genteel sensibilities and leave them scarred for life. Heaven forfend! Oh Lawdy no, we don't want that! No, instead we'll all just learn to bow and scrape, shut up and do as we're told, ask Massa do he wanna nice shine to go with his poached eggs in da mornin'....Mebbe he'll leave a nice neckbone in the pot for us..............

You know what? This delusional and unrealistic Pollyanna garbage you guys seem to believe is going to turn into one big, ugly fucking mess someday. It really is. The kind where cities burn and people get hurt.

You know how I know this?

Because we've been there before.

It really is that simple.

Christ, I swear.............

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Old 08-29-2012, 05:00 PM
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It might be interesting to see the movie 2016:Obama's America that TD discussed in another thread. I suspect it will be released for free prior to the election. It might be on Netflix or On Demand cable already.

While the movie is obviously a propaganda piece it might explain a bit about the economic theory behind globalism/New World Order. If it does then there is something the movie makers aren't saying -- they are in it up to their eyeballs, too. They just want their man to be the boss instead of Obama.

It's all a nasty game when it doesn't have to be. Sad.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:14 PM
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It might be interesting to see the movie 2016:Obama's America that TD discussed in another thread. I suspect it will be released for free prior to the election. It might be on Netflix or On Demand cable already.

While the movie is obviously a propaganda piece it might explain a bit about the economic theory behind globalism/New World Order. If it does then there is something the movie makers aren't saying -- they are in it up to their eyeballs, too. They just want their man to be the boss instead of Obama.

It's all a nasty game when it doesn't have to be. Sad.
The egaltarian nature of free trade might just be why both parties aupport it, albeit with their own nuanced justifications. Inasmuch that free trade flattens the disparity between haves and have nots, one would hope that it would be broadly supported.
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Old 08-30-2012, 06:19 PM
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The egaltarian nature of free trade might just be why both parties aupport it, albeit with their own nuanced justifications. Inasmuch that free trade flattens the disparity between haves and have nots, one would hope that it would be broadly supported.
Why would the haves support it if their standard of living gets knocked down?

And to follow Ross Perot's logic, what incentive does the have not's government have to improve their standard of living?
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And, no I'm not angry. I'm incredulous that anyone actually believes this horseshit.

In the REAL WORLD, you work hard to earn your money, yes. But you also fight to protect that which has been accrued or some slick corporate weasel and his team of lawyers will soon get busy finding ways to shave you down. That's how they make their living, this is what they do.

Honestly, I don't know when our generation got this cockamamie notion that all businessmen are angels in their heads, but it needs to go the way of the dinosaur before we all end up exchanging company script at the company store to stock the shelves in the pantries of our company owned homes in our company run lives.......AGAIN.

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