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11-01-2012, 01:38 PM
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Sounds like the unions are aware they are the problem.
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You really should try to inform yourself about something before shooting off your mouth.
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11-01-2012, 01:48 PM
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You really should try to inform yourself about something before shooting off your mouth.
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I did inform myself, I read this post-
"The unions for Mercedes and BMW (IG Metall) haven't objected to some of their cars being built overseas (including in the non-union American South) because they believe it will help the companies they work for remain solvent."
Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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11-01-2012, 01:54 PM
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I did inform myself, I read this post-
"The unions for Mercedes and BMW (IG Metall) haven't objected to some of their cars being built overseas (including in the non-union American South) because they believe it will help the companies they work for remain solvent."
Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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IG Metall has agreed with the German manufacturers opening plants overseas as they believe it will help the companies remain profitable and help them keep their union jobs. I think IG Metall is largely agnostic about whether the plants overseas are unionized or not.
That said, if I were a foreign company opening a plant in the US, I would do my best to locate it in a place free from the UAW.
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11-01-2012, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
IG Metall has agreed with the German manufacturers opening plants overseas as they believe it will help the companies remain profitable and help them keep their union jobs. I think IG Metall is largely agnostic about whether the plants overseas are unionized or not.
That said, if I were a foreign company opening a plant in the US, I would do my best to locate it in a place free from the UAW.
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As would I.
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11-01-2012, 02:41 PM
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Unions believe non-union plants will help keep their companies afloat. Yup, sounds like the unions know they are the problem.
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No, the German trade unions recognize that expanding into other countries is good for the health of their employers. Union vs. non-union isn't really an issue because they recognize that unionization is a highly variable thing in other countries.
Again, inform yourself about German unions. They are organized differently, are more enmeshed in corporations, including having seats on the Boards of many companies - by law- and are an integral part of the success and health of the German economy and industry.
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11-01-2012, 06:06 PM
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No, the German trade unions recognize that expanding into other countries is good for the health of their employers. Union vs. non-union isn't really an issue because they recognize that unionization is a highly variable thing in other countries.
Again, inform yourself about German unions. They are organized differently, are more enmeshed in corporations, including having seats on the Boards of many companies - by law- and are an integral part of the success and health of the German economy and industry.
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They sure are organized differently, the trade union leaders are in bed with the corporations. Works a hell of a lot better (for the company) than here.
Do you know why you don't often see German union workers on strike? They gave away the right to strike.
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11-01-2012, 01:06 PM
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So let me wander here for a minute. Jeep opens a brand spankin' new state-of-the-art plant in China. It booms. Their per unit cost is 25% less. They're NOT going to start importing them? I don't 'buy' it.
Unless Jeeps get old soggy and cold during transport
I'm having fun with this. I'm all for GM & Ford (heck on foreign Jeep to a degree) making a killing in China. But I'm sensing some odd twisting here
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11-01-2012, 01:46 PM
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Wasilla is particularly incoherent today.
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11-02-2012, 06:15 AM
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If you could forget your bias for maybe a day and look into the history of the UAW they did a lot of good. And like most 'good old days' the good old days of the big three were not.
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11-02-2012, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
IG Metall has agreed with the German manufacturers opening plants overseas as they believe it will help the companies remain profitable and help them keep their union jobs. I think IG Metall is largely agnostic about whether the plants overseas are unionized or not.
That said, if I were a foreign company opening a plant in the US, I would do my best to locate it in a place free from the UAW.
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Well of course. Why pay a decent wage to your workers, with good benefits on top. Just plant it in a southern republican state and they will be happy to get Walmart wages for the job.
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