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Old 03-04-2017, 04:23 PM
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I readily admit with pride that I am on the government gravy train.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:57 PM
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I readily admit with pride that I am on the government gravy train.

You on the other hand get all feisty and defensive when I point out the fact that you are on it too.

What's the prob Ice?

You feel guilty?
No.
You are just temporary.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:06 PM
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No real change ever comes from the establishment.
Too true and the civil rights movement comes immediately to mind. It was citizens leading the way and doing most of the work.

The army was one of the first establishment organizations to support, albeit subtly, the cause.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:19 PM
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Too true and the civil rights movement comes immediately to mind. It was citizens leading the way and doing most of the work.

The army was one of the first establishment organizations to support, albeit subtly, the cause.
Fifty-percent true. It still took an establishment President to sign an executive order or piece of progressive legislation to ratify grassroots change. All of our greatest legislation has been signed by professional political hacks.

Trump is indeed an exception. He has to make the leap to the assembly line.
He embraces the establishment or becomes neutered.

The only difference now is that he may keep his position because Americans might not care if nothing gets done.
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Old 03-04-2017, 04:40 PM
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Fifty-percent true. It still took an establishment President to sign an executive order or piece of progressive legislation to ratify grassroots change. All of our greatest legislation has been signed by professional political hacks.

Trump is indeed an exception. He has to make the leap to the assembly line.
He embraces the establishment or becomes neutered.

The only difference now is that he may keep his position because Americans might not care if nothing gets done.
I don't accept your grade and will discuss it with the professor. Like an establishment guy you're claiming credit where none is due. You described how the system works - the squeakiest wheel gets the most grease. And because the cause was just, the establishment acknowledged it, the wheel just got squeakier and squeakier as more and more citizens actively, tacitly or silently joined the movement.
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That be the one. But if anyone hadn't seen it, you just spoiled it....
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:00 PM
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That be the one. But if anyone hadn't seen it, you just spoiled it....
... actually, your confirmation is the spoiler.

I promise not to tell them about Time Enough at Last.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:46 PM
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... actually, your confirmation is the spoiler.

I promise not to tell them about Time Enough at Last.
Funny--lots of people seem to like that one, but I can't see it.
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:06 PM
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Funny--lots of people seem to like that one, but I can't see it.
What's funny about that?

I liked it with no seems to about it. Opening your eyes might help.
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