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Old 08-02-2018, 12:14 PM
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I see you conveniently overlooked the article I linked to about ongoing administration and Republican efforts to keep dark money flowing into GOP coffers (like Russian money to the NRA).
...as if Dems aren't doing the same damn thing. In fact you pointed out earlier that the Dems chose not to "unilaterally disarm". You have pockets of folks on both sides of the aisle who want to stop this too, though their efforts are sadly kept pretty far under the radar.

Have fun with trying to somehow make this a partisan issue. It ain't.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ctions-n849391

WASHINGTON — Democrats love decrying "dark money" — political contributions for which the source of funds is a mystery. But that isn't stopping them from accepting "dark money" themselves or making it difficult to determine the original underwriter of a political donation, as a recent Southern contest vividly illustrates.

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Old 08-02-2018, 12:20 PM
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...as if Dems aren't doing the same damn thing. In fact you pointed out earlier that the Dems chose not to "unilaterally disarm". You have pockets of folks on both sides of the aisle who want to stop this too, though their efforts are sadly kept pretty far under the radar.

Have fun with trying to somehow make this a partisan issue. It ain't.
McCain is pretty much the only Republican who's against dark money filling GOP coffers. Meanwhile, Trump cultists such as you criticize him as a traitor to the conservative cause (while you simultaneously praise the real traitor, your Dear Leader).
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Old 08-02-2018, 02:38 PM
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McCain is pretty much the only Republican who's against dark money filling GOP coffers. Meanwhile, Trump cultists such as you criticize him as a traitor to the conservative cause (while you simultaneously praise the real traitor, your Dear Leader).
McCain was an ass before there Trump ever tried to run for office.

You keep trying to make this a partisan issue. Hillary out-raised Trump by almost a 2 - 1 ratio and still lost. I suspect that's what you're most pissed about: that no matter how much the Dems fund-raise, the mature non-whack jobs are the ones that are more likely to vote. That pretty much means that a significant chunk of the Dem base is likely to stay at home on election day.
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Old 08-02-2018, 05:00 PM
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McCain was an ass before there Trump ever tried to run for office.

You keep trying to make this a partisan issue. Hillary out-raised Trump by almost a 2 - 1 ratio and still lost. I suspect that's what you're most pissed about: that no matter how much the Dems fund-raise, the mature non-whack jobs are the ones that are more likely to vote. That pretty much means that a significant chunk of the Dem base is likely to stay at home on election day.
WTF does this have to do with your lame effort to refute my assertion that it is the GOP and Trump who are behind keeping dark money flowing into their coffers from shady sources, including Russia?
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Old 08-02-2018, 05:56 PM
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WTF does this have to do with your lame effort to refute my assertion that it is the GOP and Trump who are behind keeping dark money flowing into their coffers from shady sources, including Russia?
Still trying to make this a partisan issue, huh? Good luck with that.

This thread was originally about dark money funding of both the Dem and Repub governors campaign here in MI. But in your world, its all about the GOP....and of course in your world there's a Russian hiding under every bed.

By the way, didn't the Podesta group do a bunch of lobbying and legal work for Russian oligarchs too?

Nah, can't talk about that. I doesn't fit the narrative.
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Still trying to make this a partisan issue, huh? Good luck with that.

This thread was originally about dark money funding of both the Dem and Repub governors campaign here in MI. But in your world, its all about the GOP....and of course in your world there's a Russian hiding under every bed.

By the way, didn't the Podesta group do a bunch of lobbying and legal work for Russian oligarchs too?

Nah, can't talk about that. I doesn't fit the narrative.
I'm completely OK with Podesta being held accountable for any crimes he committed, though I have no idea what that has to do with the GOP fighting to keep dark money alive.
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Old 08-03-2018, 10:43 AM
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I'm completely OK with Podesta being held accountable for any crimes he committed, though I have no idea what that has to do with the GOP fighting to keep dark money alive.
Before you hijacked it, this thread was about the MI governor's race and the dark money that is flowing into the campaigns of both the leading Dem and Repub gubernatorial candidates. Twice I've rejected your premise that the "dark money" issue is a partisan issue, but every time you've steered the subject right back to "Repubs" and even "Russians". And yet you get your little nickers in a knot when I throw out Podesta's consulting? LOL!

Finn - this is a state race. Efforts on the Federal level to control campaign spending wouldn't necessarily trickle down to state laws. State campaign finance laws in MI, like most other states, haven't changed in years (I think 1977 in our state's case). So, your attempts to talk about with's happening at he national level aren't really relevant in this thread. But hey, don't let that stop you from deflecting.....of whatever the hell you think you're doing.
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