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[donquixote99]

What started WWI was an aging Empire's determination to punish a smaller nation....

Yes. See what you mean.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

What started WWI was an aging Empire's determination to punish a smaller nation....

Yes. See what you mean.

The Oberste Heeresleitung started WWI. At the last minute the Emperor and his PM changed their minds, but were told it was too late to stop the trains (so to speak). The execution of the Schlieffen Plan was the be all end all at that moment in German history.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by nailer

The Oberste Heeresleitung started WWI. At the last minute the Kaiser and his PM changed their minds, but were told it was too late to stop the trains (so to speak). The execution of the Schlieffen Plan was the be all end all at that moment in German history.

The causes are indeed complex, but the assassination of the Archduke was the fuse that caused the powers to mobilize. Discounting the assassination as the fuse that lit the keg is false revisionism.

[nailer]

Originally Posted by icenine

The causes are indeed complex, but the assassination of the Archduke was the fuse that caused the powers to mobilize. Discounting the assassination as the fuse that lit the keg is false revisionism.

Your buying off on the lie agreed upon. The Germans were the driver. They declared war on two fronts, attacked and violated Belgium's neutrality. Their choice. Not revising a thing.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by nailer

Your buying off on the lie agreed upon. The Germans attacked. Their choice. Not revising a thing.

History.com says you are full of horse hockey and I concur:

"The assassination of Franz-Ferdinand and Sophie set off a rapid chain of events: Austria-Hungary, like many in countries around the world, blamed the Serbian government for the attack and hoped to use the incident as justification for settling the question of Slav nationalism once and for all. As Russia supported Serbia, an Austro-Hungarian declaration of war was delayed until its leaders received assurances from German leader Kaiser Wilhelm that Germany would support their cause in the event of a Russian intervention–which would likely involve Russia’s ally, France, and possibly Britain as well. On July 28, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, and the tenuous peace between Europe’s great powers collapsed. Within a week, Russia, Belgium, France, Great Britain and Serbia had lined up against Austria-Hungary and Germany, and World War I had begun."

[nailer]

Originally Posted by icenine

History.com says you are full of horse hockey and I concur:

"The assassination of Franz-Ferdinand and Sophie set off a rapid chain of events: Austria-Hungary, like many in countries around the world, blamed the Serbian government for the attack and hoped to use the incident as justification for settling the question of Slav nationalism once and for all. As Russia supported Serbia, an Austro-Hungarian declaration of war was delayed until its leaders received assurances from German leader Kaiser Wilhelm that Germany would support their cause in the event of a Russian intervention–which would likely involve Russia’s ally, France, and possibly Britain as well. On July 28, Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia, and the tenuous peace between Europe’s great powers collapsed. Within a week, Russia, Belgium, France, Great Britain and Serbia had lined up against Austria-Hungary and Germany, and World War I had begun."

Was editing my previous post to more clearly show it was the Germans while you were researching the mainstream lie agreed upon.

The Germans started WWI just like they started WWII. Attacking other nations for their own glory.

[JCricket]

Originally Posted by nailer

Was editing my previous post to more clearly show it was the Germans while you were researching the mainstream lie agreed upon.

The Germans started WWI just like they started WWII. Attacking other nations for their own glory.

Can you post a credible source for this statement? I have never seen it but would like to if it exists.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by nailer

Was editing my previous post to more clearly show it was the Germans while you were researching the mainstream lie agreed upon.

The Germans started WWI just like they started WWII. Attacking other nations for their own glory.

I guess the pundit who said you can't fact check crazy this week was right.