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Old 12-10-2011, 08:01 AM
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I hope he is wrong

.. . but I am afraid he is right. Tried to create a shortcut to this Newsweek article but it only wanted to put it on my desktop and then would not let me copy it here. Article by Niall Ferguson saying that we don't have a debt problem, we have a growth problem.


"The Fed's Critics Are Wrong: We Need to Avert Depression
Dec 5, 2011 12:00 AM EST The Fed is working to prevent an economic calamity. Why do its critics seem eager to repeat the mistakes of 1931? "


The actions yessterday by the EU are exactly the wrong move as they will stifle growth and lack of growth is the real problem. Before the recession Spain and Italy were paying down their debt but the recession has cut revenue and so the lenders jack up the rates and only make matters worse. I thought it was a cardinal rule - when you are in a hole, stop digging.

When Hoover decided to cut the debt in 1931 he started the Great Depression and all the bank failures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...NjO_story.html

This is worth reading also.
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:22 AM
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Heard them talking about this last night on NPR's/PRI's "The World". Pretty scary stuff, having their economies shrink to a point where there is no way of ever paying the debts off.




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Old 12-10-2011, 09:48 AM
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I guess it goes to show that politicians only have the capacity to phuck up the economy and not fix it.
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Old 12-10-2011, 10:09 AM
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I guess it goes to show that politicians only have the capacity to phuck up the economy and not fix it.
Isn't this actually being driven by the bond traders and other money people? It seems like short sightedness has been a common malady among money people lately. It's not as much that the Europeans are ceding their sovereignty to a central government but to financiers.

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Old 12-10-2011, 11:06 AM
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"Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it's laws." Mater Amschel Rothschild

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Old 12-10-2011, 11:19 AM
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It does seem as if the splitting up of the E.U. is inevitable.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:45 AM
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Yeah but two great depressions in one lifetime is pushing it.
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Old 12-10-2011, 11:52 AM
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Tell me you didn't go to Bartlett's for that one.

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Old 12-10-2011, 01:16 PM
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Tell me you didn't go to Bartlett's for that one.

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Old 12-10-2011, 01:18 PM
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Yeah but two great depressions in one lifetime is pushing it.
Is it like deja vu all over again?

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