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07-27-2022, 07:01 AM
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One of the worst Fake News outlets, OANN, is being dropped by the last major cable company carrying it. Good riddance.
The future of One America News, which established itself as a powerful voice in conservative media by promoting some of the most outlandish falsehoods about the 2020 election, is in serious doubt as major carriers drop it from their lineups and defamation lawsuits threaten to drain its finances.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/b...-troubles.html
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07-27-2022, 07:28 AM
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Oh No He Did-dent!
Trump's Former Defense Secretary Calls B.S. On National Guard Claim
Seems like I read somewhere (maybe here?) about a claim that tRump had authorized the NG deploy on Jan. 6. With so many Reich-Wing deflections,finger pointing and blame shifting for the "largely peaceful" mob that assaulted the Capitol, it's hard to keep up.
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07-27-2022, 12:06 PM
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The communications apparatus of the conservative movement was established with the goal of advancing the right’s political interests. Its organs often borrow superficial conventions, like bylines and the inverted-pyramid structure, to create the simulacrum of a traditional news medium. But the people working in these institutions understand they are working for the conservative movement, not on behalf of the public’s right to know. Their approach to malfeasance by their side is to ignore, distort, or change the subject to some agreed-upon sin by the enemy (a practice called “whataboutism”).
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/arti...-fox-news.html
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07-27-2022, 02:36 PM
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The communications apparatus of the conservative movement was established with the goal of advancing the right’s political interests. Its organs often borrow superficial conventions, like bylines and the inverted-pyramid structure, to create the simulacrum of a traditional news medium. But the people working in these institutions understand they are working for the conservative movement, not on behalf of the public’s right to know. Their approach to malfeasance by their side is to ignore, distort, or change the subject to some agreed-upon sin by the enemy (a practice called “whataboutism”).
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/arti...-fox-news.html
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Where's that guy around here that says the Dems did it first?
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07-31-2022, 09:38 AM
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Trump is pissed about losing a propaganda outlet
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A truth that the Reich-wing a$$holes will never understand.
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08-02-2022, 07:25 AM
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A truth that the Reich-wing a$$holes will never understand.
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Something that Orwell never envisioned:
https://www.allsides.com/sites/defau...Version6_0.jpg
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08-02-2022, 07:56 AM
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This post shows you don't understand Orwell. He was an outspoken advocate of a free press, something your post graphically depicts. OTOH, your Dear Leader despises a free press and prefers dishonest, sycophantic outlets like OANN, NewsMax, InfoWars and Fox News.
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08-02-2022, 10:54 AM
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This post shows you don't understand Orwell. He was an outspoken advocate of a free press, something your post graphically depicts. OTOH, your Dear Leader despises a free press and prefers dishonest, sycophantic outlets like OANN, NewsMax, InfoWars and Fox News.
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Your response shows you don't understand...well...a lot.
Of course Orwell wanted a free press. But even back in his day, he wasn't satisfied that the news media was delivering on this. He was concerned that journalists were self-defeating in this cause.
If publishers and editors exert themselves to keep certain topics out of print, it is not because they are frightened of prosecution but because they are frightened of public opinion. In this country, intellectual cowardice is the worst enemy a writer or journalist has to face, and that fact does not seem to me to have had the discussion it deserves.
Today's corporatization and extreme polarization of the media has made such "intellectual cowardice" a virtue to the extent that large media companies have found a way to monetize it.
To that end, Fox News buries or distorts elements of the truth just as frequently and aggressively as CNN does. The New York Post and New York Times will have very different takes on the same story. They do this to appeal to a particular audience: the ones most likely to gravitate to their pages or their channel based on their own biases or, to borrow from Orwell, intellectual cowardice.
Back to Orwell's quote that appeared in the picture Chicks posted, if journalists agree only on certain facts to appeal to certain audiences, there's a lot of public relations that take the place of news these days.
In the meantime, you and yours are subject to the same "criticism" that you attempt to level above: you gravitate to CNN, MSNBC, Slate, HuffPo, Mother Jones, the New York Times, and WaPo because they make you more comfortable with their slant on the news.
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08-02-2022, 11:05 AM
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In the meantime, you and yours are subject to the same "criticism" that you attempt to level above: you gravitate to CNN, MSNBC, Slate, HuffPo, Mother Jones, the New York Times, and WaPo because they make you more comfortable with their slant on the news.
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The difference between these outlets and Faux News (and their wingnut brethren) is that these outlets do indeed provide their slant on the news whereas the wingnut infotainment complex makes shit up out of whole cloth (e.g., Seth Rich, Stop the Steal, Sandy Hook & Parkland crisis actors, Dominion Voting Systems, Vote-Stealing satellites and thermostats ...) while defending/parroting the biggest liar ever known in American public life. IOW, the WaPost and NYTimes do not equal Breitbart and The Epoch Times just as CNN does not equal OANN, NewsMax or Faux News.
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