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12-31-2016, 10:21 AM
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Jigsawed
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Next the Russians will be responsible for the lead in Flint.
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12-31-2016, 10:32 AM
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Next the Russians will be responsible for the lead in Flint.
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Naw, we all know that was Rick Snyder, tovarich.
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12-31-2016, 11:11 AM
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The public was not showing that much interest in the DNC hacking and was buying into Trump's "time to move on".
So lets shake up the public by hinting that the Russians are messing with its Electricity.
Moreover it is a classic response to the Russians. It is telling them that we can play the game in many different ways.
Our gamers have now projected in the public mind an entity called a "Russian malware" which can be installed conveniently. This is beautiful.
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12-31-2016, 11:43 AM
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The public was not showing that much interest in the DNC hacking and was buying into Trump's "time to move on".
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Says who, comrade?
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12-31-2016, 12:28 PM
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Russia Hysteria Infects WashPost Again: False Story About Hacking U.S. Electric Grid
https://theintercept.com/2016/12/31/...electric-grid/
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The Washington Post on Friday reported a genuinely alarming event: Russian hackers have penetrated the U.S. power system through an electrical grid in Vermont.
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The Post’s story also predictably and very rapidly infected other large media outlets. Reuters thus told its readers around the world: “A malware code associated with Russian hackers has reportedly been detected within the system of a Vermont electric utility.”
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What’s the problem here? It did not happen.
There was no “penetration of the U.S. electricity grid.” The truth was undramatic and banal. Burlington Electric, after receiving a Homeland Security notice sent to all U.S. utility companies about the malware code found in the DNC system, searched all their computers and found the code in a single laptop that was not connected to the electric grid.
Apparently, the Post did not even bother to contact the company before running its wildly sensationalistic claims, so they had to issue their own statement to the Burlington Free Press which debunked the Post’s central claim (emphasis in original): “We detected the malware in a single Burlington Electric Department laptop not connected to our organization’s grid systems.”
So the key scary claim of the Post story – that Russian hackers had penetrated the U.S. electric grid – was false. All the alarmist tough-guy statements issued by political officials who believed the Post’s claim were based on fiction.
Even worse, there is zero evidence that Russian hackers were responsible even for the implanting of this malware on this single laptop. The fact that malware is “Russian-made” does not mean that only Russians can use it; indeed, like a lot of malware, it can purchased (as Jeffrey Carr has pointed out in the DNC hacking context, assuming that Russian-made malware must have been used by Russians is as irrational as finding a Russian-made Kalishnikov AKM rifle at a crime scene and assuming the killer must be Russian).
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12-31-2016, 12:58 PM
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Jigsawed
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The idea of the "Russian malware" is already out there, it is not coming back.
I will bet you: even six months from now it is quoted as fact.
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12-31-2016, 02:15 PM
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trai·tor
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noun
a person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.
"they see me as a traitor, a sellout to the enemy"
synonyms: betrayer, backstabber, double-crosser, renegade, fifth columnist; More
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It occurs to me that republicans seem to view black, Mexican, LGBT, Muslims and poor people in the same light as Nazi Germans once viewed Jewish people. We must be vigilant that it goes no further.
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12-31-2016, 02:40 PM
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The constitutional definition is one who 'makes war upon the United States, or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.'
I consider intervening in our elections via illegal covert action to be enemy action.
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12-31-2016, 03:56 PM
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Just to keep our minds right, the 'flash' that fries non-internet-but-electronic-dependent cars isn't hacker action, it's the electro-magnetic-pulse (EMP) from a nuclear explosion. That is therefor a lot worse on the disaster scale that a Ruskie-engineered revolt of our electronic servants.
In the event that an EMP fries your car's electronics you'll probably want a well-equipped fallout shelter to survive the first couple of weeks in a semi-civilized style.
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A high altitude one would result in less radiation hitting the ground. Taking out satellites. Fun times indeed.
Our society would suffer greatly with just the loss of cell phones and internet for a week. If the grid then was down across the country also. The lack of news and information even for a few days. The vast majority of the people of this country have not known or complected let alone prepared for such the likes.
Think I go out and buy meez a AR!
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01-01-2017, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The public was not showing that much interest in the DNC hacking and was buying into Trump's "time to move on".
So lets shake up the public by hinting that the Russians are messing with its Electricity.
Moreover it is a classic response to the Russians. It is telling them that we can play the game in many different ways.
Our gamers have now projected in the public mind an entity called a "Russian malware" which can be installed conveniently. This is beautiful.
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WaPo was so breathlessly excited that they might have a way to regain some shred of credibility that they rushed out the story without bothering to check some elemental facts. Typical.
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