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Old 04-28-2016, 06:17 AM
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Fiorina calls the nomination process a game

"like football"

Yeah, I guess she is right.

Should it be that way though?

I don't think so.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:06 AM
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She's a cynical hypocrite and I could care less what she says or thinks.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:19 AM
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perfect word to describe her, IMHO
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:24 AM
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Interesting. just saw sound bites of Carly championing Trumps platform but saying only she and Ted can do it.

Shows how powerful Trumps message is. It really is the same as Bernie's message.

DC is broken, a private club.
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Old 04-28-2016, 07:32 AM
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Interesting. just saw sound bites of Carly championing Trumps platform but saying only she and Ted can do it.

Shows how powerful Trumps message is. It really is the same as Bernie's message.

DC is broken, a private club.
To share one point is not to have the same message. Bernie might be running against the establishment, but the values he espouses and the vision he has for what government should do are entirely different from Trump's message. That's like saying that the Pope and the Ayatollah have the same message because they are both religious leaders.

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Old 04-28-2016, 07:34 AM
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To share one point is not to have the same message. Bernie might be running against the establishment, but the values he espouses and the vision he has for what government should do are entirely different from Trump's message. That's like saying that the Pope and the Ayatollah have the same message because they are both religious leaders.

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Old 04-28-2016, 08:31 AM
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As a failure as CEO of HP who eliminated 18,000 US jobs, outsourced if you will, as part of her grasping for air being in over her her head it was great fun watching her trying to get my vote running against Boxer.
Fiorina lost by one million votes in that election.
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Centerpiece Of Fiorina's Tenure Described As "Total Flop" And "Disastrous"

Merger Failed To Produce for Shareholders, Make HP More Competitive. Fortune reported, "First, under the only lens that matters, did the famed merger that Fiorina engineered between HP and Compaq produce value for HP's shareholders? Second, with that merger nearly three years past, is HP in shape to thrive in its brutally competitive world? The answers are no and doubtful...This was a big bet that didn't pay off, that didn't even come close to attaining what Fiorina and HP's board said was in store." [Fortune, 02/07/05]

Even Before Compaq Merger, Fiorina's Tenure At HP A Series Of Disappointments. According to the Economist, "She has had to warn repeatedly of disappointing results. In the nine months to July, HP saw its net profit fall by 82%, to $506m. The company has slashed costs, announced 6,000 job cuts and asked staff to volunteer for a temporary 10% pay cut. Although there had been some speculation that Ms Fiorina would be replaced, the takeover of Compaq shows that she has - at least for the time being - still got the backing of her board." [Economist, 9/4/01]

Centerpiece Of Fiorina's Tenure Described As A "Total Flop." The London Observer reported, "With hindsight, it's hard to see how Carly Fiorina, America's pre-eminent female executive, who was fired as CEO of Hewlett-Packard last week, could have survived. The centerpiece of her career - a $ 24 billion merger with Compaq - was a flop; HP's board was threatening to strip her of day-to-day responsibilities at the firm; As one of only eight women heading Fortune 500 companies, the HP/Compaq deal was Fiorina's fatal error: not just because the strategy was flawed - two years on it has not achieved its goal of improving cost efficiencies in HP's PC business - but also because she alienated too many people in the process of pursuing that goal." [London Observer, 2/13/05]

HP/Compaq Merger Described As "Disastrous." According to the London Observer, "Since the merger, HP has lost market share and failed to revive its profit margins. It lost the number one position in personal-computer market share last year to Dell. While the share price of Dell has soared over the past 18 months, HP's has floundered. Indeed, the merger was so disastrous that Fiorina fought off three attempts to spin off HP's highly profitable printer business and cut the PC business adrift. After her departure last week, shares in the company rose nearly 10 per cent on that prospect." [London Observer, 2/13/05]

Fiorina's Personality And Management Cited For Failure. According to the International Herald Tribune, "Fiorina's personality and management style ultimately led to her demise. She used hardball tactics to suppress the opposition of Walter Hewlett, the company's largest shareholder and the son of its co-founder William Hewlett, to the 2002 Compaq merger...Last year, when the company's struggling corporate computer division failed to meet its sales growth targets, she abruptly fired three top executives in what many people, both inside and outside the company, saw as a public hanging." [International Herald Tribune, 2/12/05]

Hewlett Alleged Merger Would Result In Even More Job Losses. The Washington Post reported, "HP has said the merger would result in 15,000 layoffs. But Hewlett said in his filing that the company's management knew that it risked losing 24,000 jobs. Hewlett also referred to an internal company memo that notes that profits for the merged operation for 2002 and 2003 may be 'significantly below' the projections company executives have put before the public." [Washington Post, 3/29/02]
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Old 04-28-2016, 09:28 AM
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Interesting. just saw sound bites of Carly championing Trumps platform but saying only she and Ted can do it.

Shows how powerful Trumps message is. It really is the same as Bernie's message.

DC is broken, a private club.
Good points, although all populists are not the same.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:02 AM
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Candidates posturing to get elected. Trump's message is selling to the GOP audience, Cruz's is failing badly. Fearina to the rescue and how best to sell if not by co-opting your opponents message. Politicians are human chameleons and we are seeing Fearina in action., though calling her a politician is quite a stretch. She is an abomination and a apology for a human being.

Edit: Trump has a platform? I thought all he needs is a podium.
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Old 04-28-2016, 10:13 AM
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Edit: Trump has a platform? I thought all he needs is a podium.



Ha! That is a great line!!
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