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09-28-2016, 02:11 PM
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Because it was suggested that the Russkie hackers may also have been buggering about with voter registries I applied all over again. New voter ID card arrived in the mail today. No photo but you do have to sign it. They had the date of my original application which was the day after I was naturalized.
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09-29-2016, 11:01 AM
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From the link in from the OP.
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Thus, for example, a voter who had to make multiple day long trips to a government office and make burdensome document requests to obtain an ID would not be able to vote, under Texas’ standard, unless that voter was willing to jump through all of these considerable hoops.
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So the intent here is to make obtaining the ID process itself onerous, not the requirement of the ID itself, but one does lead into the other. The net effect is that this is a form of vote suppression since people without resources will simply not bother.
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09-29-2016, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
From the link in from the OP.
So the intent here is to make obtaining the ID process itself onerous, not the requirement of the ID itself, but one does lead into the other. The net effect is that this is a form of vote suppression since people without resources will simply not bother.
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Onerous and confusing. A student ID from a state-run university? No good. A concealed carry permit issued by the same state? No problem.
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09-30-2016, 08:27 AM
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Problem is solved if all states were to adopt vote by mail. Since stamps must be affixed out of pocket, there will be some folks that just will not bother. IMO the mailing should be free.
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10-04-2016, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rajoo
Problem is solved if all states were to adopt vote by mail. Since stamps must be affixed out of pocket, there will be some folks that just will not bother. IMO the mailing should be free.
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Here in Colorado, you can mail back the ballot, or if you prefer, there are numerous ballot drop boxes around town. Usually coupled with a sheriffs office or a DMV office. No need to pay for a stamp if you want to drop them off.
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09-30-2016, 10:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nailer
In a way wouldn't this be a suppression of a State's rights?
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Depends. Federal law overrules state law if there's a conflict.
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09-30-2016, 10:39 AM
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Which may just be perceived as a suppression of states' rights.
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09-30-2016, 11:08 AM
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We know what "States Rights" is code for.
In a conflict between local tyranny re the BoR and Federal law, States Rights lose.
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10-03-2016, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pio1980
We know what "States Rights" is code for.
In a conflict between local tyranny re the BoR and Federal law, States Rights lose.
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I am with you. Feds should trump ( scuse da bad pun ) the states.
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