Does he cry fake tears for them?

[hatrack71]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Wasn't the idea to trace where they ended up, thus establishing a "picture" or trail of the cartel networks?

Kind of a dumb idea on more than one level. One being that opportunist oppostion politicians (Issa) could easily paint it as "arming Mexican drug cartels" then the usual propaganda outlets (FoxNews, EIB and the NRA and it's sycophant magazines.) could spin some yarn about it being part of some nefarious plot to attack the 2nd amendment..........

When really, it was just a very flawed plan associated with the very flawed "War on Drugs".

Regards,
Dave

Yep, agreed. The war on drugs is fruitless. It's not going to stop anything.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Wasn't the idea to trace where they ended up, thus establishing a "picture" or trail of the cartel networks?

Nope!

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Nope!

John

Do tell?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

The purposeful act was letting guns walk. You'll have to ask Issa, but not sure what else he coulld legally do once executive privilege is declared. Again a dedicated thread would be appropriate I think.

.

Originally Posted by Boreas

Do you actually know why the guns were allowed to "walk"?

John

Still there, BS?

John

[hatrack71]

Need the popcorn emoticon here.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Nope!

John

Originally Posted by bobabode

Do tell?

Really, John...do tell?

Regards,
Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Really, John...do tell?

Regards,
Dave

I was waiting to see whether BS knew but he seems to be MIA.

Here's an article from that commie rag, Fortune Magazine. It's the best summation of the operation and the serious cluster f#@k that it was that I've seen. At its core the story is one of a seriously dysfunctional agency which has been deliberately crippled by the gun lobby and their Republican allies.

There was gun walking, a total of 3 guns and these were part of a sting but that's not what F&F was about. In fact, the sting operation was run against the parameters set out by the team's leader, and authorized by a subordinate while the leader was on vacation. The agent who ran the rogue operation was the guy who blew the whistle and the two guns found near the dead agent were from that group of 3. Figure THAT out if you can!

Anyway, I don't want to spoil your enjoyment of the article so here's the link.

http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.co...furious-truth/

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

If I recall correctly the official story was to enable them to somehow trace revealing nature in which they made there way into the hands of the bad guys. Is there a different reason I haven't heard. Truthfully I'd like to get into this on a different thread as I'd love to hear what other folks view of this is.

I think we probably covered this in a thread sometime back. Anyway, read the article I linked to. It'll show you just how screwed up this whole thing has been and how many outright lies have come from the Congress and the press.

As I see it, the biggest problem was AZ gun law. It really hamstrung the Feds. Next would be the two (or three) rogue agents in the ATF's F&F team.

John

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

As far as those (five law enforcement personnel?). Put them under oath in front of a senate committe and ill buy their story.

They'll just start up with that, "To the best of my recollection" bullcrap and it'll get nowhere. They aren't afraid of any Senators, they'll just lie.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by baconshorts

Yes I believe this has always been about the gun laws. Some might call it a false flag operation. There are emails uncovered that support this as well ( I see if I can find them).

As far as those (five law enforcement personnel?). Put them under oath in front of a senate committe and ill buy their story.

Has the committee called them?

Regards,

D-Ray