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11-30-2014, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He was with Michael Brown when he assaulted the cop. Assaulting a cop is considered aggravated assault in most states, as is attempting to disarm a police officer. He was also with Brown when he shoplifted and committed battery against the store owner. So, in a matter of minutes, he was with Brown in the commission of a couple of misdemeanors and two felonies.
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Accomplice implies a willing participant, see my edit.
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11-30-2014, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
He was with Michael Brown when he assaulted the cop. Assaulting a cop is considered aggravated assault in most states, as is attempting to disarm a police officer. He was also with Brown when he shoplifted and committed battery against the store owner. So, in a matter of minutes, he was with Brown in the commission of a couple of misdemeanors and two felonies. Whether this meets the legal definition of accomplice is certainly debatable, but continuing to hang out with a guy who does these things don't paint a particularly flattering picture of his character. Moreover, it taints his testimony in that downplaying the severity of Brown's actions reduces the likelihood of his own implication in the matter.
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The only person close enough but not directly involved in the altercation says Wilson grabbed Brown. That is hardly assault.....
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11-30-2014, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rex E.
OK...I won't go into all or the pro Wilson assumptions (you all keep saying he knew he was dealing with a "Felon Thug" If I'm to believe this then I'd also believe that Brown knew Wilson had Klan ties)
So, the only witness aside from Wilson that could have seen or heard anything close by is Brows friend Jones who tells a very different story from what Wilson tells......why has he been dismissed completely?
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Because his testimony did not line up with what McCulloch wanted to hear?
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11-30-2014, 12:33 PM
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Because his testimony did not line up with what McCulloch wanted to hear?
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No, because it didn't comport with the physical evidence. Plus I read that he changed his story several times. Neither helps his credibility.
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11-30-2014, 01:33 PM
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Brown was an entitled thug, fresh off robbery, who placed the life of an officer in immediate danger.
He got justifiably shot. The evidence is clear, there never should have been a Grand Jury. But, to appease other folks feeling entitled to special dispensation due to prior perceived slights...
Everyone sees it that way except folks unwilling to admit they were wrong from the beginning.
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11-30-2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Brown was an entitled thug, fresh off robbery, who placed the life of an officer in immediate danger.
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How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?
And, there is that word again; "entitled"....
Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?
" entitled thug"
" entitlement violence"
"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"
"Entitled" to what?
I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?
Think about that fellas.
Dave
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12-01-2014, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?
And, there is that word again; "entitled"....
Why is that word being interjected into damn near every sentence regarding this case?
"entitled thug"
"entitlement violence"
"mobs of entitled rioters and looters"
"Entitled" to what?
I smell a big fucking rat behind this. Where are we going with it?
Think about that fellas.
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Dave this is typical right wing shibboleth trying to contaminate a perfectly innocent English word.
Thieves do no rob because they feel entitled to some item in your possession, hell they don't even know WTF you have until they have broken into your home.
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12-01-2014, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
How so? The so-called "beating" Wilson received that produced barely discernable marks on his face?
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Yeah, I saw that little strawberry on his cheeky poo.
That's the kind of thing that if you went crying to your mother about it when you were 7 years old the other kids would laugh at you and call you a sissy.
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12-01-2014, 02:08 PM
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Finn, you like your guns, if I'm not mistaken.
If Brown was trying to wrest the Sig Sauer from Wilson, as Wilson testified, and Wilson attempted to fire it twice but surmised Brown's right hand prevented the hammer from striking, wouldn't Brown have blood blisters or cuts that would have the hammer strike pattern present on the meat of his right hand?
Also, If Brown were squared up to the window, and had a grip on the gun, and was striking Wilson on the left side of his face with his left hand while having his head inside the Tahoe, wouldn't the bullet that did fire and strike Brown's right thumb at 9" - 12", then passing through the inner door handle before exiting the SUV, also stand a great chance of striking Brown's torso outside the Tahoe?
I know 6'4" dudes that weigh 290 pounds, and they are tree stumps. There wouldn't be a chance in hell they would not get struck as long as the bullet trajectory wasn't going straight down, which isn't the case here.
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11-30-2014, 06:32 PM
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Violence is as American as cherry pie. I'm no fan of any of it, believe me. But I've got little patience with this notion that 'cop wrongful violence and official misconduct are regrettable, but black people acting out over it is HORRIBLE AND UNACCEPTABLE.' You can't fix the one without fixing the other. Trying to stop the second and then getting around to the first when you can is just AIDING AND ABETTING the oppression.
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