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Old 01-21-2013, 05:07 PM
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[QUOTE=HatchetJack;143019]Bad judgment using the President's kids as an example imo. But they do have a
point even though they went about it the wrong way.
All High School athletic events have armed police officers yet every morning
I drop my kids off at school the only cop in sight is 1/2 mile down the road
writing speeding tickets to, well, mostly parents trying to make the 8:00
buzzer.

Even the threat of there "might" be an armed guard on site would save more
lives than another "assault"? weapons ban.[/QUOTE]

Hi Jack, If congress can find the will and really does it without buying back all of the "assault" weapons already out there, it won't make a lot of difference.
I'm with the president on providing the school districts the funds they need to hire armed guards, they've been a fixture in most of the inner city schools for many years already. I wouldn't have an objection to putting in metal detectors either. It's a shame that we've come to this but we've got to make an effort at protecting our citizens from crazy murderers. I guess shopping malls and theaters are next.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:59 PM
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Bad judgment using the President's kids as an example imo. But they do have a
point even though they went about it the wrong way.
All High School athletic events have armed police officers yet every morning
I drop my kids off at school the only cop in sight is 1/2 mile down the road
writing speeding tickets to, well, mostly parents trying to make the 8:00
buzzer.

Even the threat of there "might" be an armed guard on site would save more
lives than another "assault"? weapons ban.
I'm still waiting for the detailed description from anyone on how the armed guard at Columbine stopped what happened there...or was that just a "one off"?
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:06 PM
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I'm still waiting for the detailed description from anyone on how the armed guard at Columbine stopped what happened there...or was that just a "one off"?
Hey, he took a shot at one of them once.

From outside.

And missed.

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Old 01-21-2013, 07:33 PM
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I do not think the GOP is going to give Christie the nomination. He runs as an independent or becomes a Democrat. Is Christie the last hope of the moderates in the GOP? Or does he become the coup de grace that destroys the Republican Party at the national level...
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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Bad judgment using the President's kids as an example imo. But they do have a
point even though they went about it the wrong way.
All High School athletic events have armed police officers yet every morning
I drop my kids off at school the only cop in sight is 1/2 mile down the road
writing speeding tickets to, well, mostly parents trying to make the 8:00
buzzer.

Even the threat of there "might" be an armed guard on site would save more
lives than another "assault"? weapons ban.
Paranoid schizophrenics and sociopaths are not deterred by armed guards or the death penalty in case you haven't noticed. It is the same principle as the Al-Quaeda terrorist who wears a vest of explosives ...if they do not care about their own life you cannot really stop them from harming others.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:41 PM
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Paranoid schizophrenics and sociopaths are not deterred by armed guards or the death penalty, in case you haven't noticed. It is the same principle as the Al-Quaeda terrorist who wears a vest of explosives ...if they do not care about their own life you cannot really stop them from harming others.
Stop actually using your brain and logic...that stuff just gets in the way.......muddies up the water, so to speak....
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Stop actually using your brain and logic...that stuff just gets in the way.......muddies up the water, so to speak....
Yes Great Old One......
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:06 AM
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Excellent article in the latest TIME regarding armed guards and their training - or lack thereof. Any one recall that shoot out in NYC where the trained police managed to wound several innocent bystanders. Think about any police action you read about in the papers - it is obvious the cops are not buying their own ammunition.
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I somewhat agree Rob. It's like any profession, some are committed, and some should be

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Paranoid schizophrenics and sociopaths are not deterred by armed guards or the death penalty in case you haven't noticed. It is the same principle as the Al-Quaeda terrorist who wears a vest of explosives ...if they do not care about their own life you cannot really stop them from harming others.
There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.

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Old 01-22-2013, 08:35 AM
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There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.

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They kill themselves. Are you suggesting that when we find someone who is crazy, we kill them as a preventative measure?

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