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Old 06-26-2009, 02:57 PM
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Cap and trade

I just heard the dems need 14 more votes, with 17 undecided. Looks like it's coming down to the wire. Gotta go call my elected officials.
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Old 06-26-2009, 03:22 PM
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"Cap 'n' trade" ? More like "Tax 'n' Spend"....
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:32 PM
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You know it Sandy. As bad as the added tax will be on the American people, I'm more concerned with the manufacturing that it will drive to China and Mexico. I dunno, it's just frustrating as hell, but I guess if the American people believe that Co2 is a pollutant that's causing the earth to heat up, well then, I guess we deserve to be stolen from.
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Old 06-27-2009, 06:45 AM
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Exactly which American manufacturing will move to China or Mexico? I did not know there was any left.
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Old 06-27-2009, 09:04 AM
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There is lots of manufacturing here, and many companies who have plants here and abroad, have found out that the American worker beats the socks off the foreigners. I can sight one plastics manufacturer that I do work for. They have a plant in Kansas, Missouri, Mexico, and China. For the last 4 years, the ranking has been just that as far as profit goes (KS, MO, Mexico, then China). The point I was "trying" to make is, we need to enact legislation that will make America more attractive to large businesses, not punish them for doing business here.
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:32 AM
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Sure awful hard to find American made products in the stores.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:18 AM
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Just so people know, the 8 republicans (in name only) that voted for this trainwreck are;

Mary Bono Mack (CA)

Mike Castle (DE)

Mark Kirk (IL)

Frank LoBondo (NJ)

Chris Smith (NJ)

John McHugh (NJ)

Dave Reichert (WA)

Leanord Lance (NJ)
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:42 AM
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Why does the states they are from not surprise me ?
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:00 PM
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Why does the states they are from not surprise me ?
Yep, it's always the same old socially responsible states.



(I'm waiting, I love your comebacks )
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:54 PM
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Interesting point regarding States, are y'all aware that the vast majority of those with no health insurance are south of the Mason Dixon. Wonder why the northerners support fixing health insurance, they are going to get soaked through the nose.
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