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Old 06-12-2014, 11:12 AM
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Why "Global Warming" Failed...

& why climate change is real - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5c4XPVPJwBY#t=103
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:43 PM
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I only watched part of it so far. I'll watch the rest when I get time. I will say, this is the most compelling case I've seen made against the accepted models of climate change.

One significant flaw, however, keeps me from giving it more credence. This "pause in global warming" he talks about - there hasn't been a pause in global warming. It's true that surface temperatures are rising less quickly than they were. But that's just surface temperature data, and regardless, it's still rising. If you listen to this guy, he doesn't actually deny that.

However, much more importantly, this variation in surface temperature data hasn't been mirrored by a decrease in rise of ocean levels or polar ice melt. Which leads to one conclusion - it's still getting a lot warmer and our oceans are absorbing more of that heat than the surface.

While that may sound like the Earth taking care of everything for us, as this guy suggests, it is not. Ocean temperature rise is the far more critical issue with regard to human habitability of the planet.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:50 PM
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After you watch the whole video, please comment again. I think he will respond to any questions I email him.
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:51 PM
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Ya lost me with John Coleman DJ. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Co..._weathercaster)
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Why? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Co..._weathercaster)
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Old 06-12-2014, 04:58 PM
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After you watch the whole video, please comment again. I think he will respond to any questions I email him.
I will if I get a chance. Thought, honestly, I don't have any questions for him - other than to ask "why are you mischaracterizing the current data as suggesting a 'pause' in global warming when there clearly is none?" But, I mean, we know the answer, and it's one he's not likely to offer himself: he has an agenda.

He uses this alleged "pause" as the basis for his whole argument (as far as I've gotten). He shows, accurately, that CO2 and temperature have moved in lock step, but says it has all changed for the first time in observable history. As evidence he offers the "pause" that hasn't happened. So, I mean...
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Old 06-12-2014, 05:00 PM
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But, I mean, we know the answer, and it's one he's not likely to offer himself: he has an agenda.
You need to watch it to the end. He responds to that exact assumption.
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You need to watch it to the end. He responds to that exact assumption.
Because he knew people would come to that conclusion? (Like they always do.)
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He's an anthropogenic climate change denier.
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He's an anthropogenic climate change denier.
He never says that the climate isn't changing.
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