It's Official, Russians Corrupted The Election

[finnbow]

Then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) spoke twice last year with Russia’s ambassador to the United States, Justice Department officials said, encounters he did not disclose when asked about possible contacts between members of President Trump’s campaign and representatives of Moscow during Sessions’s confirmation hearing to become attorney general.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...09f_story.html

[donquixote99]

What We Already Know About Trump’s Ties to Russia Amounts to Treachery to the Republic: New York Magazine Daily Intelligencer / John Chait

The high point of Donald Trump’s presidency to date — the moment when those who desperately wanted to close their eyes and imagine a normal president standing before the country got something resembling their wish — came during his late-February speech to a joint session of Congress. Trump managed to read his address without narcissistic digressions, and the message he delivered (“Nationalism with an indoor voice,” as one White House official put it) would have been obvious to any casual listener. Over and over, Trump blamed America’s problems on foreigners or the willingness of past leaders to accommodate them: “We’ve watched our middle class shrink as we’ve exported our jobs and wealth to foreign countries”; “We’ve defended the borders of other nations while leaving our own borders wide open for anyone to cross”; “America must put its own citizens first”; “Our obligation is to serve, protect, and defend the citizens of the United States”; “My job is to represent the United States of America.”

The display of overt, bellicose nationalism presents a morbid contrast with the unfolding Russia scandal, which exposes the president’s boasts of domestic loyalty as containing all the irony of the title of the television show The Americans. The scandal is spinning off in multiple directions, but at bottom it suggests a betrayal of American sovereignty by Trump that is unprecedented in the history of the republic. For a still-unclear combination of reasons — greed for power, greed for money, vulnerability to blackmail, or motivations unknown — the incoming administration cooperated with the undermining of American democracy by a hostile foreign power.

[Tom Joad]

“We’ve watched our middle class shrink as we’ve exported our jobs and wealth to foreign countries”; “We’ve defended the borders of other nations while leaving our own borders wide open for anyone to cross”; “America must put its own citizens first”; “Our obligation is to serve, protect, and defend the citizens of the United States”; “My job is to represent the United States of America.”

I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.

In fact I find it refreshing.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I see absolutely nothing wrong with any of that.

In fact I find it refreshing.

So you stick your head in the sand as to what he's actually been doing, in contradiction of all that, with Russia.

It could mess up your refreshment, I know.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

So you stick your head in the sand as to what he's actually been doing, in contradiction of all that, with Russia.

And what is that?

This ridiculous notion that Russia is the reason Hillary Clinton lost the election?


I don't buy that foolishness for a nano second.

[icenine]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

What We Already Know About Trump’s Ties to Russia Amounts to Treachery to the Republic: New York Magazine Daily Intelligencer / John Chait

Trump is like those 19th Century Russian nobles that spoke French instead of
Russian...he's more of a class that identifies with foreign plutocrats than fellow
country men and women.

Why he loves Putin.
It is clear that he loves to blame Mexico for all our problems.

[donquixote99]

You are deflecting, and labeling without substantive argument. Shouting "I don't buy it" as if that means something is just like sticking your fingers in your ears and loudly going LA LA LA.

Let me put this in terms you may understand.

The question is NOT why Hillary lost the election.

The question is how far Putin is up Trump's ass. Get it?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The question is how far Putin is up Trump's ass. Get it?

So?

I don't share the cold war mentality that says I have to consider the Russians and/or Putin as some kind of threat.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

So?

I don't share the cold war mentality that says I have to consider the Russians and/or Putin as some kind of threat.

So we can count on them to run our country well, and everything will work out for the best?

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

So we can count on them to run our country well, and everything will work out for the best?

The Russians are going to run our country?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsfUCIchEuo