The New War

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

It would be for the survival of their way of life.

The Communist aren't going to just surrender.

Communist???

Russia practices Crony Capitalism.

The dispute between the West and Russia is essentially between pro Russian oligarchs and pro Western oligarchs.

[RickeyM]

Any such conflict would be complicated. The NATO members I think would say we knew sooner or later he (Putin) would come for us so now that we know his strengths and weaknesses let's put him out of our misery and be done with it. The first thing to be done is go after anything Russia has on Ukraine territory. Then cripple his war machinery and agree to stop there if Russia agrees stay in Russia amd minds it's own business. I don't think there'd be a need for boots on the ground because nobody wants the headache of running the place

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

It would be for the survival of their way of life.

The Communist aren't going to just surrender.

The best thing for the survival of their way of life is to stop fucking around with other countries and take care of their own house.

[Human]

Originally Posted by RickeyM

The best thing for the survival of their way of life is to stop fucking around with other countries and take care of their own house.

They own the most real estate of any country in the world.

I know a lot of it is frozen but it seems like they should be able to take advantage of that somehow, rather than taking land from other countries

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Human

They own the most real estate of any country in the world.

I know a lot of it is frozen but it seems like they should be able to take advantage of that somehow, rather than taking land from other countries

The land they want produces grain and has access to deep water leading to markets.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Human

They own the most real estate of any country in the world.

I know a lot of it is frozen but it seems like they should be able to take advantage of that somehow, rather than taking land from other countries

This is all about Putin feeling that Russia was humiliated by the collapse of the USSR and his insistence that Russia is a great empire and feared world power, notwithstanding the fact that their its economy is a corrupt basket case producing nearly no value-added products other than second rate weapons for Third World customers.

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

It would be for the survival of their way of life.

The Communist aren't going to just surrender.

Not communist, autocratic authoritarian fascism. A difference with a distinction tho one can serve the other.

[BigElCat]

Touche.

When did pure Communism end ? When Stalin executed Trotsky ?

Engles wrote the manifesto under Marx's heavy influence. He (Engles) had no intent for it to become the ultimate con job. It sounds benevolent, just like our own declaration of independence.

The Political Zionists rose to power in parallel with Marxism. What a strange coincidence. It's all about the money, and control.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Touche.

When did pure Communism end ? When Stalin executed Trotsky ?

Engles wrote the manifesto under Marx's heavy influence. He (Engles) had no intent for it to become the ultimate con job. It sounds benevolent, just like our own declaration of independence.

The Political Zionists rose to power in parallel with Marxism. What a strange coincidence. It's all about the money, and control.

Ii can think of no reason to call that correlation in time "strange."

Pure communism has never existed except in tiny communal groups. Even nominal communism ended in Russia with the fall of the USSR.

[BigElCat]

Check this out from the BBC. We have re-habbed some Al Qaeda guys. They're on our side now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z51MTI9sbFY