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03-02-2014, 09:31 PM
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Besides being a nice guy what was so great about Reagan?
In retrospect Carter may have not have started this hatred of the government that Reagan sort of legitimized. If the tax rates on the very top had been kept higher we would not have the economic inequality today. I guess Bush II is to blame for that as well.
I wish I could take that vote back in 1980...should not have voted for a movie star that looked liked the Marlboro Man
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I know what you saying, but it's different today. Today, if the rich can't make what they want then they simply send work offshore, and that costs us even more jobs. While I don't agree it is fair practice, one cannot deny they have us by the balls so to speak. Cut in to their earnings by demanding high wages, harsh EPA regulations, or collecting more taxes from them and they just close shop in the US knowing they can still win the game.
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03-02-2014, 09:44 PM
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Carter won the first round ok, but at the end of his first term he had become not so popular.
"Reagan won the election, carrying 44 states with 489 electoral votes to 49 electoral votes for Carter.''
Didn't Reagan make it a second term after that? Why didn't Carter?
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I thought we were talking about the middle class disappearing? As to Reagan, I've got nothing good to say.
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03-02-2014, 09:47 PM
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I thought we were talking about the middle class disappearing? As to Reagan, I've got nothing good to say.
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In the post above I got back on track.
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03-02-2014, 09:51 PM
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I know what you saying, but it's different today. Today, if the rich can't make what they want then they simply send work offshore, and that costs us even more jobs. While I don't agree it is fair practice, one cannot deny they have us by the balls so to speak. Cut in to their earnings by demanding high wages, harsh EPA regulations, or collecting more taxes from them and they just close shop in the US knowing they can still win the game.
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Sounds like a recipe for disaster to let it continue but you're probably right, what you or I do or say won't amount to hill of crap in the grand scheme of things. I'll just keep on showing up to vote as long as they'll let me.
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03-02-2014, 09:56 PM
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Sounds like a recipe for disaster to let it continue but you're probably right, what you or I do or say won't amount to hill of crap in the grand scheme of things. I'll just keep on showing up to vote as long as they'll let me.
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It really sucks. If I knew a way to fix things I promise I would gladly spill my guts.
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03-02-2014, 10:29 PM
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I blame Sister Mary JJ from Tennessee.
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03-02-2014, 10:34 PM
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It really sucks. If I knew a way to fix things I promise I would gladly spill my guts.
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Just vote, man. That's all we've got left. Well, that and the guillotine.
Now can I send you a Democratic voter registration card? I promise not to tell anyone.
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03-03-2014, 12:12 AM
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When you hear a Conservative bloviating about the "free market" today, he is either a fool who doesn't realize it's the so-called "free market" that putting downward pressure on his wages, or a wannabe elitist tyrant that dreams of himself building great personal wealth on the backs of wage slaves.
Either way, it's nothing but bullshit. And, if you think we have problems now, just let these people have their way. Because it's nothing more than what we had prior to the last labor movement. Which was not all it's cracked up to be and at times, turned bloody.
Want to repeat history? Just keep this up.
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03-03-2014, 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hillbilly
I know what you saying, but it's different today. Today, if the rich can't make what they want then they simply send work offshore, and that costs us even more jobs. While I don't agree it is fair practice, one cannot deny they have us by the balls so to speak. Cut in to their earnings by demanding high wages, harsh EPA regulations, or collecting more taxes from them and they just close shop in the US knowing they can still win the game.
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Only in the industries that are transportable and most of those are already gone. Not all of them are.
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03-03-2014, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
When you hear a Conservative bloviating about the "free market" today, he is either a fool who doesn't realize it's the so-called "free market" that putting downward pressure on his wages, or a wannabe elitist tyrant that dreams of himself building great personal wealth on the backs of wage slaves.
Either way, it's nothing but bullshit. And, if you think we have problems now, just let these people have their way. Because it's nothing more than what we had prior to the last labor movement. Which was not all it's cracked up to be and at times, turned bloody.
Want to repeat history? Just keep this up.
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Question Dave Whats the last labor movement? Are you talking about the Union labor wars?
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