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Old 08-21-2015, 08:36 PM
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For the sake of discussing the merits of birthright citizenship, one must, by necessity, distinguish between those born of American citizens and those that are not. "Anchor babies" may be a bit harsh, but what other term is universally recognized to describe the babies at the heart of the issue? Much ado about nothing, methinks.
In Canada, 'Passport Baby' arising from 'Birth Tourism', from Wiki.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:37 PM
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I just have a harder time as I get older finding reasons to be outraged. For the most part, I'm comfortable with people believing what they want and advocating for it, whether or not I agree with it. If they advocate strongly for a position that the majority finds abhorrent, their movement loses credibility - as it should be.

The bottom line - I just don't get that worked up over words, nor do I look for reasons to be outraged. Life's too short.
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:42 PM
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I just have a harder time as I get older finding reasons to be outraged. For the most part, I'm comfortable with people believing what they want and advocating for it, whether or not I agree with it. If they advocate strongly for a position that the majority finds abhorrent, their movement loses credibility - as it should be.

The bottom line - I just don't get that worked up over words, nor do I look for reasons to be outraged. Life's too short.
Yeah you are right words are not important.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:09 PM
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Yeah you are right words are not important.
In the political silly season, I reaction far more to behavior/actions than words. I just think it's silly to make a big issue of terms such as anchor baby or illegal alien. I'm OK with whomever wishing to call them that to do so, just as I'm comfortable with others using their terms. I still don't know a widely recognized alternative to "anchor baby," not that I'm really seeking it.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:29 PM
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I call 'em germ wagons or simply babies but then we're childless losers, by design.
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Just for my own edification, what is the socially acceptable term for "anchor babies?"

It is best to simply not make denigrating remarks about the reproduction of 'others.' Doing so makes it pretty much unavoidable to press fear and loathing buttons.

If you don't like some effects of birthright citizenship, say what they are. You can do this, I'm sure, without making babies the object of ire, or implying that 'those people' use their spawn as social hardware.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:45 PM
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It is best to simply not make denigrating remarks about the reproduction of 'others.' Doing so makes it pretty much unavoidable to press fear and loathing buttons.

If you don't like some effects of birthright citizenship, say what they are. You can do this, I'm sure, without making babies the object of ire, or implying that 'those people' use their spawn as social hardware.
Is this directed at me?
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:48 PM
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No. I am not aware of you defending the use of the term 'anchor baby.'

But I see why the question, looking at the previous post. Sometime I forget to quote what I'm replying to. Will fix.
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:53 PM
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No. I am not aware of you defending the use of the term 'anchor baby.'

But I see why the question, looking at the previous post. Sometime I forget to quote what I'm replying to. Will fix.
Whew...Sorry for assuming.
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Old 08-22-2015, 08:16 AM
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It is best to simply not make denigrating remarks about the reproduction of 'others.' Doing so makes it pretty much unavoidable to press fear and loathing buttons.

If you don't like some effects of birthright citizenship, say what they are. You can do this, I'm sure, without making babies the object of ire, or implying that 'those people' use their spawn as social hardware.
I'm not sure that those babies, at the moment of delivery, understand English.
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